Why are you allowing GDKP in SoD?

[Baddtank-lone-wolf]

Sorry, no. Never ever!

[Whosyou-crusader-strike]

You’re super sussy…. You sound like a gold seller.

[Zaigo-bleeding-hollow]

@Baddtank-lone-wolf

Never ever!

never say never kiddo

dont care
ban gdkps

@Therontus-emerald-dream

People buy gold, they pay a crap ton of gold for whatever they want. The gold gets spread between the people in the raid. The people in the raid that didn’t buy gold just got a stupid amount of gold. At least a handful of these people use this ill-gotten gold to buy consumes or whatever else, sometimes they buy everything out. People repost things for stupid high prices. People with the GDKP gold don’t really care how much they have to pay for whatever they’re buying from the AH, because they have so much, so they pay whatever the price is for whatever they need. The prices skyrocket because for everything from BoEs to consumes because of this. Now the only way to afford consumes is to either buy gold or go to GDKPs and hope a big “buyer” comes in and pays a stupid amount for an item so they can afford consumes for whatever else they’re doing. Eventually, after this has gone on long enough, the primary way to make gold to afford things is to either cheat or to go to GDKPs or run them yourself. After this goes on long enough, the primary raid you said being run in general is a GDKP. Now all you have is GDKPs and a select amount of LC and SR runs that can’t get going because all the people that are actually trying are only doing GDKPs because they need to use their lockouts to afford consumes.

@Therontus-emerald-dream

The bots create literally millions of gold that wasn’t in the economy. The gold buyers buy that gold, they use that gold to buy stuff in GDKPs for stupid amounts. That gold gets spread to non-gold buyers. They buy out the auction house. They repost for higher pricers. Other gdkpers no longer care about the price of items. They pay whatever they have to. People keep posting for high prices because it sells. Everyone has to find someway to afford their consumes so they also do GDKPs.

This is reality. This is what happened. I know it doesn’t suit your narrative, but that’s how this works.

@Zaigo-bleeding-hollow

Then, comes the WoW token.

[Baddtank-lone-wolf]

This man dosent know about Imagine caring blinkin.

[Baddtank-lone-wolf]

I will! Blizzard will never be able to stop me from selling loot for gold!

[Zaigo-bleeding-hollow]

@Baddtank-lone-wolf

Imagine

you cannot imagine

dont care
ban gdkps

@Therontus-emerald-dream

People buy gold, they pay a crap ton of gold for whatever they want. The gold gets spread between the people in the raid. The people in the raid that didn’t buy gold just got a stupid amount of gold. At least a handful of these people use this ill-gotten gold to buy consumes or whatever else, sometimes they buy everything out. People repost things for stupid high prices. People with the GDKP gold don’t really care how much they have to pay for whatever they’re buying from the AH, because they have so much, so they pay whatever the price is for whatever they need. The prices skyrocket because for everything from BoEs to consumes because of this. Now the only way to afford consumes is to either buy gold or go to GDKPs and hope a big “buyer” comes in and pays a stupid amount for an item so they can afford consumes for whatever else they’re doing. Eventually, after this has gone on long enough, the primary way to make gold to afford things is to either cheat or to go to GDKPs or run them yourself. After this goes on long enough, the primary raid you said being run in general is a GDKP. Now all you have is GDKPs and a select amount of LC and SR runs that can’t get going because all the people that are actually trying are only doing GDKPs because they need to use their lockouts to afford consumes.

@Therontus-emerald-dream

The bots create literally millions of gold that wasn’t in the economy. The gold buyers buy that gold, they use that gold to buy stuff in GDKPs for stupid amounts. That gold gets spread to non-gold buyers. They buy out the auction house. They repost for higher pricers. Other gdkpers no longer care about the price of items. They pay whatever they have to. People keep posting for high prices because it sells. Everyone has to find someway to afford their consumes so they also do GDKPs.

This is reality. This is what happened. I know it doesn’t suit your narrative, but that’s how this works.

@Zaigo-bleeding-hollow

Then, comes the WoW token.

[Baddtank-lone-wolf]

GDKP STATUS: not banned

Anti gdkp status: butt blasted

[Zaigo-bleeding-hollow]

@Baddtank-lone-wolf

GDKP STATUS

your on lockout

dont care
ban gdkps

@Therontus-emerald-dream

People buy gold, they pay a crap ton of gold for whatever they want. The gold gets spread between the people in the raid. The people in the raid that didn’t buy gold just got a stupid amount of gold. At least a handful of these people use this ill-gotten gold to buy consumes or whatever else, sometimes they buy everything out. People repost things for stupid high prices. People with the GDKP gold don’t really care how much they have to pay for whatever they’re buying from the AH, because they have so much, so they pay whatever the price is for whatever they need. The prices skyrocket because for everything from BoEs to consumes because of this. Now the only way to afford consumes is to either buy gold or go to GDKPs and hope a big “buyer” comes in and pays a stupid amount for an item so they can afford consumes for whatever else they’re doing. Eventually, after this has gone on long enough, the primary way to make gold to afford things is to either cheat or to go to GDKPs or run them yourself. After this goes on long enough, the primary raid you said being run in general is a GDKP. Now all you have is GDKPs and a select amount of LC and SR runs that can’t get going because all the people that are actually trying are only doing GDKPs because they need to use their lockouts to afford consumes.

@Therontus-emerald-dream

The bots create literally millions of gold that wasn’t in the economy. The gold buyers buy that gold, they use that gold to buy stuff in GDKPs for stupid amounts. That gold gets spread to non-gold buyers. They buy out the auction house. They repost for higher pricers. Other gdkpers no longer care about the price of items. They pay whatever they have to. People keep posting for high prices because it sells. Everyone has to find someway to afford their consumes so they also do GDKPs.

This is reality. This is what happened. I know it doesn’t suit your narrative, but that’s how this works.

@Zaigo-bleeding-hollow

Then, comes the WoW token.

[Torz-caelestrasz]

@Neonbrown-lone-wolf

Go enjoy your corrupt MS>OS and LC runs

Loot council, yeah that stuff can get corrupt as hell depending on the people running it.

But can you explain how you think MS>OS corrupt?

[Therontus-emerald-dream]

It’s only corrupt in the way that if it’s truly MS > OS, one guy can get 9 pieces and other people can get none.

[Neonbrown-lone-wolf]

People just steal the loot or give it to their friends. Also if im tanking a raid its bs Im not allowed to roll on a 2h sword. Its also lame I cant heal and roll on dps gear. Then you have 3 guys all rolling on gear so they can give it to their friend. Very corrupt way of doing tradable loot. If I go to a gdkp and i lose a bid im not upset bc at least ill get my cut at the end. Also, if a player is afk most of the raid and wins something over me in a ms>os thats a bad feeling. Most gdkps gray parsers get no cut which means i get more gold because they didnt press their buttons.

[Therontus-emerald-dream]

I don’t get the feeling you’ve done a lot of MS > OS raids.

[Zaigo-bleeding-hollow]

@Neonbrown-lone-wolf

Very corrupt

wow nice projection onto fair looting systems

dont care
ban gdkps

@Therontus-emerald-dream

People buy gold, they pay a crap ton of gold for whatever they want. The gold gets spread between the people in the raid. The people in the raid that didn’t buy gold just got a stupid amount of gold. At least a handful of these people use this ill-gotten gold to buy consumes or whatever else, sometimes they buy everything out. People repost things for stupid high prices. People with the GDKP gold don’t really care how much they have to pay for whatever they’re buying from the AH, because they have so much, so they pay whatever the price is for whatever they need. The prices skyrocket because for everything from BoEs to consumes because of this. Now the only way to afford consumes is to either buy gold or go to GDKPs and hope a big “buyer” comes in and pays a stupid amount for an item so they can afford consumes for whatever else they’re doing. Eventually, after this has gone on long enough, the primary way to make gold to afford things is to either cheat or to go to GDKPs or run them yourself. After this goes on long enough, the primary raid you said being run in general is a GDKP. Now all you have is GDKPs and a select amount of LC and SR runs that can’t get going because all the people that are actually trying are only doing GDKPs because they need to use their lockouts to afford consumes.

@Therontus-emerald-dream

The bots create literally millions of gold that wasn’t in the economy. The gold buyers buy that gold, they use that gold to buy stuff in GDKPs for stupid amounts. That gold gets spread to non-gold buyers. They buy out the auction house. They repost for higher pricers. Other gdkpers no longer care about the price of items. They pay whatever they have to. People keep posting for high prices because it sells. Everyone has to find someway to afford their consumes so they also do GDKPs.

This is reality. This is what happened. I know it doesn’t suit your narrative, but that’s how this works.

@Zaigo-bleeding-hollow

Then, comes the WoW token.

[Neonbrown-lone-wolf]

Why is that? Do you know me? No, you dont. I have been a part of all different types of runs and they suck compared to gdkp which is why i run them in the first place. People realized all this in 2020 when gdkp became popular, where were you? There is no argument any other loot system is more fair.

[Therontus-emerald-dream]

There’s plenty of arguments for more fair loot systems. The best I’ve seen is a 2 SR system with points accumlated through raids. You use those points to boost your rolls. It allows for people new to the raid to have a pretty good chance at getting stuff while giving people that have raided tons of times a slightly better chance at winning the loot. Gives people reason to come back, and incentivizes new players to come into the raid. Only gold needed is the gold you need for consumes. If you don’t perform, you don’t get invited back.

[Torz-caelestrasz]

@Therontus-emerald-dream

It’s only corrupt in the way that if it’s truly MS > OS, one guy can get 9 pieces and other people can get none.

Yeah we MS>OS but we also do it by roll. If its for your main spec you can roll. If no one rolls then it goes to OS roll.

But on that same hand if someone in a GDKP has way more gold than every one else can he not just buy all the loot and the other guy get none?

@Therontus-emerald-dream

I don’t get the feeling you’ve done a lot of MS > OS raids.

Was this directed at me?

[Therontus-emerald-dream]

The latter point was not directed at you.

And yeah, if one guy has a ton of gold that he “honestly earned”, he’ll be able to buy all the loot he wants and no one else gets anything but gold in return. Depending on your situation you either wasted a lockout or found a way to afford consumes.

[Neonbrown-lone-wolf]

Not projecting, its the truth. How is not being allowed to roll on a piece of gear or having it ninja rolled by people who dont need the item only to trade it to their friends fair at all? How is a gm giving bis items to his gray parsing girlfriend fair at all? Keep saying ban gdkp, because all you can do is type sweet nothings. Blizz isnt changing anything.

[Neonbrown-lone-wolf]

Ive done many SR runs. There is no worse feeling than putting SRs in when you need nothing else and the item doesnt drop. Or putting in 2 SRs on a legendary binding when every other warrior in the raid does the same and you lose it anyways. At least in those same given scenarios with the same loot tables ill get a cut at the end, which always feels good.

[Torz-caelestrasz]

@Neonbrown-lone-wolf

People just steal the loot or give it to their friends

That’s not the system that the people.

@Neonbrown-lone-wolf

tanking a raid its bs Im not allowed to roll on a 2h sword.

Are you a tank or a DPS? If the raid ask’s you to please go tank and you are a DPS then you should reserve the right to roll on DPS gear before agreeing to tank the run and vice versa. Same with healing or DPS.

@Neonbrown-lone-wolf

Also, if a player is afk most of the raid and wins something over me in a ms>os thats a bad

If the dude is AFK (i assume you mean he is watching TV and just auto attacking and not actually AFK) Then I just wouldn’t let him roll on the loot and kick him from my Raid and get a sub.

If you have had these things happen in an MS>OS then you got screwed over hard man.

What’s to stop a GDKP leader from ignoring your bid in favour for his buddy’s?