But… it was a brilliant plan? He used his lieutenants as fodder to make Azeroth’s champions stronger, intent on creating an even bigger and stronger army.
Hell, he succeeded. It was the Souls in Frostmourne that did him in.
…did you miss the 3 5-man dungeons that were literally filled with Deathwing minions trying to stop Thrall?
…did you miss the part where he started feeding Darkspear Trolls to proto-dragons, and Vol’jin was in hiding?
Grom was misled by Garrosh. I’m not sure what you don’t get about that.
…did you miss the part where we opened a portal to Argus that connected the Twisting Nether between Argus and Azeroth temporarily? Sargeras literally only had access to Azeroth for the short time we were in Antorus killing Argus.
…did you miss the part where they explained why he assaulted Uldum? It was because the Halls of Origination were there. There was literally a questline where you have to infiltrate it because he didn’t want the forge to be turned against him.
And the Vale was the location of where Y’shaarj last fell. It makes sense he’d target it, looking for more power.
On top of this, Blizzard has told us that N’zoth had “plans upon plans, including his defeat.”
…he literally wanted Anduin. Did you not watch the cutscene? The others were personal vendettas from Sylvanas, not related to the Jailer, which is why they were not kept under very close observation.
Sounds to me like it’s not so much bad writing as it is you don’t know what you’re reading.
Even if I was to take the claim of insurrection seriously which I don’t as the media is full of liars, and the establishment is the real villain, the people in that incident and the BLM/antifa riots, would just be henchmen not Grand Villains or faction leaders. But, for real, there’s more moving parts and vested interests in the USA of today vs civil war USA, people don’t want a full scale civil war unless being squeezed too hard financially with not much to lose.
Arthas lured us to Northrend, tricked us into purging out our weakest members in his trials, and those strong enough to overcome them were to be his handpicked champions. Only the intervention of a Deus-Ex-Machina stopped him.
Frankly he deserved to win.
Deathwing is a dragon, he can hover, descend and fly up underneath the ship and smash it against his body if he so desired, let alone eat the thing and everything on it, turning it all to molten slag inside of his stomach–probably instantly.
Sargeras is the leader of the Burning Legion, proprietor and founding member of the Burning Crusade. His officers of the Legion know the location of Azeroth as a pinpoint of the cosmos. How he wasn’t able to find it is completely comical, since he could’ve been in touch with Kil’jaeden at the snap of a finger and figured out where Azeroth is from him in a moments notice.
If the writers, or anyone else for that matter, want to see how to write a villain correctly, then they should look no further than Grand Admiral Thrawn in Star Wars Rebels.
As a writer myself, I bow in utter awe at the absolute perfection that is Thrawn. He is the first villain I’ve seen in any media (movie, TV, book) that actually acts as intelligently as he is written to be. He also has a perfectly developed personality that allows him to act absolutely in character when the good guys get a win.
Arthas was a very poorly written Thrawn with his plan to find the best champions on Azeroth.
Some things are certainly inexplicable, for example why does the Jailer not have a hundred elites sitting at the Waystone when he knows perfectly well we are using it?
But for the most part villains have to be stupid for the same reason Alliance leaders have to be stupid relative to the Horde. If you have great power and great intelligence, only someone who also has those things can beat you without a major kryptonite-type weakness. Thus they have to do stupid things to give the other guys a chance.
Blizzard could honestly tone down the power scaling of villains and give us something like a secret faction that is undermining the Horde and Alliance from within. Then you could have intelligent villains because they aren’t world breakers.
When you have a character with ultimate power, that the heroes simultaneously have to be afraid of, but also eventually able to beat, you need them to have some sort of exploitable weakness.
The easiest (and, as you’ve probably noticed, least fun) way to do this is to have the villain themselves make some horrible, almost out-of-character mistake. Not to have their own flaws or misguided aspirations be their undoing, but simply to do something really freaking stupid so the heroes can kill them.
It’s difficult to write a villain that seems both competent, yet fallible. Even harder to have them taken down in a satisfying way - but god, is the effort appreciated.
I really wish we didn’t have to resort to the Convenient Magic Beam™ for so many of WoW’s villains.
Hey, that guy is on an airship. An airship that is made of wood and can’t maneuver as well as a dragon with wings. If only dragons could dive and breathe fire, but nah, flying above the ship in large circles is clearly superior.
But it wasn’t? It sounds about as successful as Palpatine absorbing Rei and Kylo’s ‘souls’ to become super powerful, while his entire standing fleet gets pasted.
Did you notice that Deathwing only tried to stop Thrall three times? Dude had an Infinite amount of time and only tried three times?
Did you miss the Troll starting zone when Vol’jin outwardly threatened to kill Garrosh and the Orc just let him go? Who does that?
‘I was only following orders!’ - Nuremburg Trials
But why? Azeroth is THE planet you’re after. You have ships capable of intergalactic travel and invaded the planet three separate times. How are you NOT there?!
Which is Blizzard’s attempt at trying to sound clever, while keeping N’Zoth’s around to ruin him for another expansion.
I watched the cutscene and it made me vomit. You might love reading garbage, but some of us would like a story to make sense.
And I bet you thought season eight of Game of Thrones was the best season ever.
Tywinn Lannister and Geoffery Boratheon prove you wrong. R.R. Martin might not be the best writer, but he knows how to build characters and is not afraid to follow logical consequences.
But I guess being stupid qualifies as good writing.
Arthas was more defensive position than the rest that were terrible strategists. The argent tournament was run to find a small strike force so if they failed he wouldn’t have a ton of new recruits.
I would agree most of them had plot wholes except for Arthas. He actually killed us all was about to rez us as undead, until Ashbringer shattered Frostmourne and turned the tides.
Also, whenever everyone talks about plots wholes I immediately remember the plot of LOTR. Why didn’t Gandalf use the eagles to fly frodo to the mount doom and dump the ring in there right there and than ? Because, there wouldn’t be an epic story if that happened.
