P.S. It’s not like it’s just me and a couple other people on the forums.
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I’d actually argue that ranged SV is the most requested spec revamp concept out of any of them, which makes sense because it’s the only “alternative” spec concept that’s actually existed in the past and proven to be a good idea.
Yes I can blame them. Derailing threads about SV because you are mad at Blizzard is still derailing a thread, and causing drama. Obviously this thread was created to incite anger from the RSV crowd, even I can see that.
This is what I’ve been saying, and people like Bepples understand this point. They have created valid threads about re adding Ranged SV and how it could be done. But they have ALSO derailed many threads that were intended to be about SV, not RSV.
I thought you didn’t want to delete anyone’s spec, so they wouldn’t endure what you apparently have endured all these years? Adding a spec and making SV ranged again are two different things.
I know this is obviously only MY opinion, but I wouldn’t mind if they basically made marksman into RSV. Then made BM the Single target spec, by giving it back steady shot (but make it nature dmg), serpent sting to all specs, and gave aimed shot to BM. You’d still have Beastial wrath, and Kill command would be replaced by arcane shot. Basically like BM of the old days sort of.
I know many would absolutely hate it, but it would maybe add to the single target profile of BM, while maintaining a sniper feel. RSV would be back, and SV would stay melee. Maybe they just change one of the names of either RSV or SV to munitions expert (yes I got that from one of the RSV guys previous posts about remaking RSV).
it’s clear that they don’t want to do anything to BM because it’s the most popular spec for the majority of hunters/casuals. same reason they didn’t make bm melee in legion based off rexxar.
i’ll never understand why they didn’t leave MM alone either. by the end of WoD they gave us instant aimed shot tier set and it was nearly perfect and the most played spec by far in pve. hunter dev had the easiest job in the world if they just added serpent spread or something but for some reason had to remake every spec for no reason.
It doesn’t though. You’ve wasted years pushing for RSV only to ruin your own movement by derailing SV threads and applying arguments such as “melee brain”.
Survival is still melee in Dragonflight. It will be melee in the expansion after that. Its over.
While I’m sure it’s power level was a major factor in popularity, I’d agree that this was the best iteration that MM ever had. The spec has never felt as good since.
BM and SV feel far more fluent than MM today (power levels aside, RIP BM) so I hope the Dragonflight talents do MM some favors.
I cant wait to see how the talent trees gonna focus on raptor strike and see the 44 forum post from Bepples crying about it.
It a endless cycle with SV. Can not talk about SV with out input from the other side. One side has to remind us what was lost and other side has to be there to remind us that it is gone and to move on.
SV is essentially a DoTs spec but melee. It amazing that Blizzard could capture old SV playstyle, but had to have it melee to make it unique.
Yeah, that is what the forums were created for, but it a rare chance that Blizzard listens any feedback. That or they just really do not care.
Terrible way to make a argument. Melee Hunters were a joke that was brought up ever so often on the forums, but now we have them. Then even Ion acknowledged that melee would only appeal to small handful of players.
The size of a player base is not a good way to judge how successful a idea will be. It is about who has the power to make changes.
Iv still yet to see someone complain about the spec in game
Cause they more focused on playing than caring about what spec everyone is playing. However, try trade chat in a city and see what it gets you.
What???..“bless your heart!”. This could only be said by someone that never played MM vs Survival. One was a build set up for a big hit, with limited movement and less CC vs someone that spread dots and had to reacte to a proc ability, plus had some of the best CC in the game. THEY WERE NOTHING ALIKE!!! How do people still support your position when you clearly don’t know what you are talking about?? I just don’t understand it!
The same people will ardently insist that specs like Arms and Fury, Destruction and Affliction, or Subtlety and Assassination are fundamentally different and can’t possibly be consolidated.
My answer is pretty much what others here have already said. If you honestly think that most hunters wouldn’t prefer if SV was to be developed as the ranged Munitions spec it was in the past, over what it is now…you do you I guess, but that would be pretty ironic considering how you time and time again point to us being delusional.
I’m not even asking them to revert SV to ranged. I just want RSVs core gameplay back, with the addition of modern elements that would give more depth and options.
I do this alot. No negative remarks… Its almost… as if… hmmm
Because you are. It lives rent free in your head
Still waiting on that data you never presented
Damn you really LOVE to mald over a video game lmao.
You know you can still play RSV yeah? Arcane shot is still in your spellbook. Everything with the exception of Raptor Strike can be used from range. Even then, you can use that during Eagle.
You speak as someone who doesn’t know what people are actually talking about when referring to RSV.
RSV, Ranged Survival
This is not a good idea. MM hardly has room for its own Talents and abilities.
Actually, a better fit might be in the Survival spec.
True Llars but the Survival spec is staying melee though so you’d need to keep that in mind as well