Well, a lot of people have quit, or found another game…I mean saying “find another game” worked back in the day, as there was still 10mil players and little competition. The bleed is real though, and we may come to a point soon where the game is so dead that it just no longer works because of lack of players. I think the horde/ally combination is a result of that to some degree.
At the end of the day it’s all very simple. Even in WoW’s glory days (Vanilla/BC/Wrath), the game wasn’t as grindy (other than leveling). Once you hit max level, you simply did the content you wanted (dungeons/raids/pvp) and that was it for the most part. Although other parts of the game are important, MOST people are playing because they enjoy one of those 3 endgame experiences…not because they enjoy grinding mandatory systems/reputations.
Essentially, the RPG element and “grind” for PVE (back then), was just running dungeons or raids to gear your alt. For PVP, you just did battlegrounds and capped your weekly arena points. The grind included doing the stuff you (get this…) actually WANTED to do. And as you did more, you got to experience and enjoy the performance of your character improving in your preferred content (which felt great).
Now you’ve got 10,000 “chores” you must do outside your preferred content, unless you want to DRASTICALLY fall behind in player power. I mean, I have to ask. Did you really ENJOY…the covenant grind, the conduit grind, the torghast leggo grind, the reputation grinds, the different types of currency grinds, etc etc?? I think the vast majority did not…and the sub numbers reflect this.
If you did enjoy this, i’m guessing you’re not the type of person that enjoys alts…and if you do, and you’re saying you played alts…you likely have quite a lot of extra time on your hands that most players don’t.
It makes a lot of sense. I am exalted, a champion that is the one that proved myself and on my word, I let them know that this alt of mine is just as heroic, if not even more heroic than I am so if you don’t believe the alt, believe me.
Swing it however you want but it needs to happen. I’m saying this as someone that has tons of exalted reputations on my old main.
The rep is required unless I go back and farm korthia (this is the part where I just log out, I’m not gonna spend 50 hours doing stuff thats not fun for me to do a second/third/fourth time)
Yeah thats why I made this thread. I’m not gonna grind away, imma just log out like i stated originally. Better things to do. Wish there wasnt because I love this game, i’m just not doing the stuff I dont like multiple times. (I did it the first time and sometimes even the second and third!) I want to play this game to have FUN
This latest patch isn’t the only thing available to do in the game. There is still lots to do that’s still fun. I’m also not going to spend a lot of time in ZM as I really don’t enjoy it. I have 3 characters already with the flying requirements. After flying starts, I may start playing a little more often there.
Not alot of things to keep you coming back so REP is treated as a unique thing for alts to have something to waste time on. Frankly this whole expansion has made me realize how badly rep is dated and boring to get. And how I wish 10.0 really rethinks a lot of this game. The fantasy is great, the rest just is old/dated ways of design and thinking.
I was talking about still things to do OUTSIDE ZM. For those players who don’t like the new zone or just don’t want to play there. It’s not all there is in WoW.
That’s fine, but most old world content stuff is fairly irrelevant due to how WoW is designed unless you are OCD on achieve’s and stuff like that which I’m not. But if others are then more power to 'em.
It would hurt the economy if you did rep grind on a character and it unlock crafter’s mark on other characters. Player power should be account bound but not patterns or recipes.