It’s still amazes me that clash has been broken for 3 expansions.
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Warriors are getting off easy.
When Druids had a choice between two rage-costing mitigations, Blizzard REMOVED ONE FROM THE GAME.
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Clash isn’t even a Brewmaster thing, anymore, they moved it to the class tree. 
The Brewmaster tree now has zero utility. Zip. Nada. None.
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They moved it to the class talents and it still doesn’t work like it did it in mists.
Absolute fumble.
Just port over the aesthetics of diablo to wow monks and overhaul the entire class like they do to warlocks every month.
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Are Diablo Monks still that Russian guy who drops giant bells on people?
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yea… why did they delete mark of ursol anyway? vs ironfur.
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No you don’t. or you don’t play one properly.
Wow conveniently forbid us to post link so you’ll have to unscrew those
Pwar: www warcraftlogs com/reports/wVmF6t7XTBpMYdG9?fight=37&type=casts ( 1.19 cast a second)
BDK: www warcraftlogs com/reports/xJdr9T3yNMbBCfnh?fight=42&type=casts ( 1.13)
this is in a ST raid where the PWar tank half the time, the least favorable log possible for a PWar.
This is a change no tank player has asked for, that if pulled properly ( which you probably won’t) only nerf fun for one tank. There is absolutely 0 logical reason to do this.
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Diablo monks heal everyone around them by beating the living hell out of somebody.
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there you go a parse with even more apm.
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your best possible log equal the absolute worst case scenario for a warrior.
want to keep this going and have a look at M+ log?
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Why are Protection Warriors getting nerfed?
Because you’ve been charging too much.
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They deleted Mark of Ursol because all the Warriors were complaining about Druids being too powerful, when they should have been asking for buffs to Warriors instead.
Karma’s a helluva thing.
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Are you trying to imply that a less than .1 difference is a difference between slow and fast.
Because that’s how close they are.
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I’m implying that a ST fight where warrior don’t tank for half of it is their absolute lowest APM scenario ever because they don’t have to use IP for half the fight. Ergo : BDK equal Pwar APM in the worst possible scenario for a Pwar.
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You’re stretching a lot to say it’s slow when it’s bigger than average.
Moreover blood dk has a way bigger dps rotation than prot warrior, prot war apm is mostly off gcd.
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average of what? other tank? shall we ( and by we, I mean you, because apparently you can link stuff and I cant) Brewmaster log with their fixed 1.0 GCD or Ppal who can spam SOTR out of GCD?
yes, BDK have more button than PWar, BDK have more strategy than Pwar, BDK have button bloat and their opener ( in M+ scenario) can be complicatyed… some people like that… Pwar is the fast paced high octane tank that other people like but you are slowing down for no reason other than someone , for some unknown reason, think that less rage on PWar make them more fun?
When has any class been more fun with less resource to play with? Has anyone in the 20 year of WoW has ever been happy to have to have less resource?
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Prot warrior are the vanilla tank, no where it’s said that they gotta be the fastest. They had some high octane moment.
I’m not the one trying to design prot warrior (not implying that I matter in any of this) because vanilla tank is not what I really like, I find them utterly boring but that’s a preference that doesn’t mean they’re bad.
But if you ask why some changes are made then there is most likely an answer.
Many times, classes being flooded with ressources doesn’t mean that they are more fun to play. If anything a lot of them become degenerate when they do (in the way that they don’t do full dps rotation). Personally I prefer the old rune systems for dks even if it was more slow.
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no where is it said that BDK had to be the methodical tank with 25 different button but here we are… no where is it said that Ppal had to be the toolbox tank with 7 different CD and even more external button but here we are… nobody ever said that Brewmaster had to be the go-to choice for underdog enjoyer but here we are.
Where it is said that Pwar had to be slow? Where is it said that IP and shield block where supposed to be choices competing for rage?
you are part of the community council. you are the link between us and the dev. You somehow defend slowing down rage generation like it’s a good thing EVEN assuming that all those change are net-neutral in term of DPS and tankiness ( which they probably won’t).
if you want to pretend your opinion don’t matter then drop the title and come back to the pleb world with us.
Please provide exemple of people happy to become slower, cause I seem to recall a controversial patch in BFA where a ton of off-gcd abilities where put on the GCD, resulting in a much slower pace for everyone, and it was quite possibly the most disliked patch ever.
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I did my part on it, there’s many posts in the community council forums that I made. There’s only so much the cc can do, we don’t have a hotline to devs.
I think there is a lot overblown about it. I don’t disagree that there might be problems about it. And I also get that being less op is less fun.
I mean I just said my part about runes, I think many dk miss old runes even if it was a slower system.
Yes.
Feral Druid feels much better being resource restricted instead of GCD