Except you’re wrong.
The magical bloodlust frenzy was retcon’d
Which is my original point
So here we are
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Erm… yeah?
Kil’jaeden shows up. Manipulates/corrupts the orcs into a bloodthirsty rabble. Demon blood comes later.
How does that change what I posted?
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Everybody is talking in circles. One of the reasons is that the people saying the Blood Fury is now an inherent racial trait rather than a corruption are just saying it over and over instead of substantiating it.
Here is the substantiation.
Note though that this did not actually begin with Warlords of Draenor. The first implications of this came from Dranosh (then Saurfang the Younger), who activates a glowing-red-eye rage while recounting what happened to his war party in his very first appearance. As a Mag’har he would not have been touched by fel at all, much less demon blood, so this would have been either a retcon to Blood Fury into an inherently orcish trait or merely a representation of a class ability rather than a racial one.
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You are conflating the ability with the ideology - the ideology was in full display. I don’t see that so much with the specific ability that your referenced.
As well as questlines demonstrating this is a struggle for all orcs.
We posted the wowpedia article that summarizes the lore, demonstrating originally the magical frenzy was a product of demonic corruption and also that WoD established it is a universal racial struggle.
It’s literally right there.
Kyalin just hates reading about the Horde and admitting she’s wrong.
I’m not.
Magical frenzy and ideology are separate
Ideology was present
Magical frenzy was retcon’d
I’ve said this now ten times. In the exact same way.
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This, first of all.
Frosthawk’s explanation makes more sense, even if I would cast some doubt on Maraad’s retelling and question how much of it is literal and how much of it simply refers to rage in general. However again, I’m not sure that such gets to what Smalloiz and I were pointing out.
It’s literally not. Nothing on the wowpedia article talks about the bloodlust being an inherent racial struggle. It simply does not exist on that page. The information exists, but you haven’t produced it, you’ve just slapped down a giant wall of text that doesn’t actually contain the proof you’re saying it has.
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It wasn’t retconned.
The Bloodlust brought on by Mannoroth’s blood is NOTHING like the inherent rage in Orcs, though it is what the Blood took and corrupted. It took control of them and put them in a constant state of Bloodlust.
Afterall, it was the reason the Orcs drew Kil’jaeden’s attention. They had “potential” and it’s wasn’t just because they were gullible.
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Does anyone remember what I can only describe as absolute vitriol towards WoD the community had when it was current content? Or are we all gonna pretend like that wasn’t a thing too? Worst I have ever seen. Straight up belligerent at times. The SL hate is at least civil so far.
At this point, you can say this thread has substantiated my post. People just tend to look at past iterations of WoW with rose-tinted glasses.
Can you show me where that happened in Legion? Because otherwise, I’d take this as an indication that the story is just getting worse.
You mean a general attitude of positivity to the current content that took place during Legion?
Well, I’ll put it this way.
Legion, overall, seems to have garnered a better reception than BFA or Shadowlands, so, if you’re seeking to validate your claim that looking back on previous expansions is just nostalgia goggles, then you should have observed similar patterns during an expansion that most agree was already good, right?
If your point is to go through here, you should see the same behavior taking place during the legion era. So, was it?
How was it changed?
It wasn’t changed, which is what we told him….numerous times now. 
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Honestly, I remember the exact opposite. When it was current, it was all round loved with a few detractors. But when it ended is when all the vitriol started.
The only major complaints that my friends had while WoD was active, was that they didn’t like the garrison concept and were upset so much of the gorgorond content got cut.
I do recall WoD getting a lot of (justified) flak. They had just concluded an Orc-shame conga line with yet another Orc-shame conga line. People rightly tagged the time travel expansion as the writers running out of ideas, and the last patch felt wholly disconnected from everything that came before it.
One day, Grom is the villain, and the next, he’s a hero - they literally didn’t explain how they got from A to B.
I would say that looking back fondly on times where everyone generally agreed times were good, vis-a-vis Legion, would be ‘other’ to the concept I am talking about. A good contrast to demonstrate my point would be WoD, which is pretty universally regarded as the worst expansion from everything I have seen, which is why I asked what I asked.
Now that I am thinking about it though - I bet there is a degree of nostalgia goggles for Legion as well. Example, I think I remember at the time most people disliking the platformed layout of Antoran Wastes because flying wasn’t an option. When people talk about Legion though, I don’t really see that come up anymore.
Agreed. I couldn’t stand the Garrison and Gorgrond was my least favorite zone there.
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