Right. I would repeat I DON’T think it’s a biblical reference.
then i guess idk what the point of bringing it up was. just pointing out that the names sound alike?
Yeah, acknowledging that there is an alternate theory (besides it sounds cool)
valid! i remember reading a suggestion in some commentary on his work that lovecraft himself was probably influenced in some ways by the obscure deities from antiquity, and you can see why they’d inform his work; iirc even tolkien sourced some of his phonemes for black speech from akkadian, so it appears fantasy writers of all stripes have been pulling from that sliver of an intersection between history and geography for a long while.
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Although I like Lovecraft’s universe, I did some research into the origin of the name.
According to the book Stay Awhile and Listen: How Two Blizzards Unleashed Diablo and Forged a Video-Game Empire , the name “Azeroth” was inspired by the 1979 novel Fires of Azeroth by author C.J. Cherryh. [S]
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Inspired*
*(Completely verbatim stolen with zero variation)
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I think this is the devs putting western IRL values and such into this game.
yeah just not literate enough in '70s and '80s paperback fantasies to have snagged this reference. honestly, i did think of, like, raven’s homeworld ‘azarath’ from the dcu. watching the cartoon network teen titans show when i was younger, i could’ve sworn she was saying ‘azeroth’ lol
Famously only the West thinks bioessentialist race realism attributing standards good or bad of morality, ethics, and goodness/evilness to genetic inheritance is bad
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Idk why some people think all values of “Don’t be a jerk” were invented out of whole cloth by the West, when the West itself is evil, as we’ve seen now and throughout history.
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In a fantasy game, yes bioessentilism does exist and should frankly. Can there be exceptions to this from time to time? Sure, thats good storytelling. But the frequency it happens in wow among other changes in storytelling supports my initial statement.
Geez imagine LOTR and when they see orcs coming, Gimli mentions maybe not all orcs are bad maybe its wrong to kill them. It just doesnt fit. Just stop trying so hard to defend a direction the devs have chosen to take us
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Tolkien literally said writing that way was a mistake and he wished he hadn’t done so
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Man pretty much every fantasy book just must rustle your jimmies huh
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Many fantasy series are improving their writing to get rid of such tropes, not just WoW.
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subjective
boy it must be comforting as a ‘fantasy enjoyer’ when you don’t have to worry about things like morals and instead can just rely on visual cues to tell us the good guys from the bad. no need to engage your brain, cuz so long as the writers don’t bother to include any sort of nuance, you don’t have to engage with it! super convenient
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If you tackle Good and Evil through bioessentialist explanations when writing races for your fictional setting in 2024 you’re either creatively bankrupt or extremely sus
That especially cannot happen in Warcraft for a variety of reasons
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Imagine, instead, the nuance that might have been added if Tolkien had written it that way. The tug-of-war it might have introduced into the characters if they were not merely fighting a force of pure evil in LotR.
The so-called evil that is just another person fighting for their life is by far a more compelling story than they’re flatly evil and only evil and we have to kill them.
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I feel like you’re just one moment away from going on a Rings of Power tirade, especially considering Tolkien regretted having written the orcs as objectively evil and would struggle greatly with how much of a contradiction the idea of an intelligent, sentient species that is morally evil was with his Catholic faith.
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There needs to be some sociological studies done on the WoW community.
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