He tried selling them out to the legion. Dude was a ego driven maniac.
It’s literally the reason we had to raid the sunwell and kill Kil’jaedan before he could step all the way through
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Lol dude was literally going to use the sunwell to open a portal.
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only because Blizzard needed an excuse to kill him. His real him would have never done that. Lore wise is TBC the worst expansion by far.
What we got in TBC is the real him Erevien. There is no other version that exists.
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his WC3 version exists. His heritage quest version exists. And those are pure and not evil.
The WC 3 Kael? The one that wanted a late teen/early twenties Jaina as a trophy girlfriend?
Yikes
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The Warcraft 3 version that near without hesitation made a deal with snake people in league with the demon Kael’thas knew had just tried to destroy Azeroth? Yeah. Not sure how he can’t be seen as evil.
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Illidan tried to destroy the Scourge not Azeroth. The snake people were morally grey.
The naga are evil. They’re all loyal to Queen Aszshara.
At least he didn’t make a deal with the crab people.
I love unpopular characters.
- Sylvanas
- Malgyos
- Kael’thas
- Gallywix
- Magatha
Did you seriously just label SYLVANAS as unpopular?
she was just as evil as Kael maybe even more. Yet she is still in the story.
She’s also a super popular character. Arguably more so than Kael ever was
By destroying Icecrown. Which would have destroyed Northrend. And the rest of Azeroth.
It’s like you never played Warcraft 3.
Illidan and his followers were a gang of anti heroes. Arthas was the bad guy.
Kael’thas died before we could get to know him better without the fel corruption.
I do kinda like how one of the things Kael’thas and Illidan had in common was simping for a girl that was interested in someone else.
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I think this is the most sensible post in the thread. Especially in the sense of non-human races retaining their identities.
There’s a difference between a society that feels different and alien versus just being “lul they’re all evil, kill 'em all.”
Ironically, throughout history, the people quick to brand an entire group of people as inherently evil or immoral are the ones who have caused the most unjustified violence. It’s almost like intrinsic morality is often just a tool to justify killing.
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I honestly do think the faction system is the big hinderance of exploring the races culture. Because of said factions, you have to keep everything “horde” or “alliance” coded. I mean, there is the blood elf poster that can’t even get into Goblin lore, culture and story beats without going “it’s a horde story!”. No, it isn’t. It is a Goblin story with one cartel in the horde. It is vastly more than just red vs blue.
Even though I went from EQ to WoW because it was just a better and more casual game at the time, EQ did something I did like. It treated races like their own thing instead of a group. Also why I love playing ESO. When I am a dwemer, I feel like it and once I get into Morrowind stuff they acknowledge me but when I do skyrim content it feels different.
There is no “faction” system like red vs blue where they can’t tell a story because it will make one faction mad. DF and TWW I see is them trying to make one story to appease both factions, but they need more horde stuff to do that as well.
But they kinda fumbled the bag with it so far because it is all about Alleria, Anduin and the Arathi and Earthen. I do still enjoy it, and I am interested int he Arathi empire and the Titan stuff with the Earthen is super fun but I can see some people not let going of the whole “faction” system just yet.
It’s going to be hard because some members of certain factions should haven’t been in said factions in the first place or been their own faction or just nuertal. That is the problem with the faction system. It was cool back in 2004, but it is an archaic design and story structure.
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