Also I believe your not allowed to include links for your discord
It’s in the support article that was linked for you:
Individuals and guilds selling boost or assistance in raiding, dungeon, or PvP activities for gold is allowed but can only be advertised in-game through the Trade Services chat channel.
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There is no trade services channel in classic era. GDKPs are not specifically covered in the advertisement policy, they aren’t carry groups or selling of gear or runs. They are forming of raids. The prior linked post with a blue response didn’t mention a specific channel to use.
The discord link the other user mention to not include seems relevant to the rules and I’ll keep that in mind in future advertisements.
So, in your advertised GDKP groups you GIVE the participants whatever gear they want without any gold changing hands?
I’m not selling it to them, it’s a loot system.
You use Trade only. Raiding and trading gold are involved. GDKP is a form of such things. At this point, it sounds like you’re just trying to nitpick in defense, instead of using the information given to you as suggestions to help you.
So let’s outline:
- Don’t advertise more than once every 10ish minutes or so.
- Make sure it’s on the character going on the run.
- Use Trade Chat only.
- Remove the Discord link, it makes it look like some sort of RMT is going down.
Use the above suggestions and your warnings should cease.
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If this is in SOD soon GDKP’s will be very much against the rules
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It’s not SoD. That was covered earlier.
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I’d like to see actual rules like this from blizzard, not player interpretation.
They were given to you. And you continue to ignore them. Either follow the suggestions Vrak and others gave or continue to get warnings. It’s entirely up to you.
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To me it’s a service that you are advertising
But you have to be mindful that everyone has different levels on what they think is ok for spam, so when you broadcast your macro it could be perceived as spam and reported as such. There is no set limit on how often you can “safely” send your macro to any channel.
It could also be people who reported you thought the GDKP was banned in all versions, not realising it was only for Season of Discovery for now.
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GDKPs are unsupported, you are not gonna get an official approval.
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Where? I have yet to see fully fleshed out rules. One blue post kind of outlined some things, but not all such as chat channels.
Do so at your own risk.
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It’s specifically in the support article that was linked to you and what I quoted that you refuse to acknowledge.
There’s nothing more to be said. If you don’t want to follow the suggestions and just want to fight about it, then I’d suggest the General Discussion forum. This isn’t the place for such things. We gave you the information as we can for the Customer Support forum, which is a peer to peer help desk with assistance from SFAs, based off of support articles and what we know.
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I’m not fighting? I’m trying to understand the undefined rules that people are able to report me on because blizzard has an insane player based automated report system.
Most likely they reported you for perceived spam, and you received a automated warning that reports were happening. So far though it is only warning, and no actual violation may be involved.
It should be noted staff, GM or otherwise, can not see what may have happened to cause the reports.
If those reports do involve a silence or suspension though, then those reports escalated, a ticket of sorts was created, and a GM reviewed the chat logs. If a penalty was issued, it was not done by any automated system, and at that point you can appeal.
Reporting in and of itself does not mean a report system was abused, being warned does not mean you were penalized.
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Reporting doesn’t automate anything other than alerting a GM of the report to review, and (if reaching a sufficient threshold of reports) a squelch on further posting until that review.
No other penalty is automated.
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You are exchanging gold both for items, and for services (players participating in the kills). Because of that it is not just a loot system, it is a paid service and loot selling system. That is because the gold is involved.
Blizzard recently defined what they view GDKP as when they restricted it in SoD. I know you are not playing in SoD, but knowing how Blizzard defines GDKP helps you realize why it falls under Services, not group finder. These two quotes should help make that clear.
What is GDKP and why is it being restricted in Season of Discovery?
GDKP is a loot system some players use that essentially allows all loot to be purchased in a dungeon or raid using gold rather than being rolled for or awarded using another loot system. How this typically works is that an item drops and is then put up for gold bid among the members of the group. Players will submit their bids in gold, and the highest bidder wins. After the item is won, gold is traded to the loot master, and then that gold is usually divided among all the raid members.
What exactly constitutes a “gold bid” or GDKP raid?
- We’re defining GDKP as any raid or dungeon run where items are awarded in exchange for gold. Please note that we have multiple detection methods for GDKP that are effective both inside and outside of dungeon or raid instances.
Now that you know Blizzard defines it as a Service like a carry, because gold changes hands, you know to follow the guidelines from the Advertising article. In the absence of Trade Services, use Trade.
Sendryn’s suggestions are excellent to assist you in avoiding getting reported for spam, or other infractions. Why are mass reports still abusable? - #26 by Sendryn-sentinels
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If you dislike it so much, there is the door and I wish you luck wherever your gaming takes you.
People love to scream about mass reporting when it is rarely the case when someone comes to the forums crying about getting sanctioned. In fact, I have yet to see a case of it being a confirmed situation of mass reporting from the SFAs at all. I don’t care what Reddit or anywhere else is reporting it - I go by verified information.
That’s not to say it doesn’t happen. It’s saying that it is nowhere near as prevalent as people like to believe.
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