Why are be being forced to choose what era to play in?

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Kaelrynn-area-52

Not deleted

so, if you dont advance to tbc, your character wont be there.

sounds a lot like the result of deleting your character to me.

[Kurogano-thunderfury]

@Joyson-sulfuras

lets hear it

1. Dead Realms
2. Names being taken by people who have never played there.
3. lack of potential community. Resulting in those that remain on forever classic having to then reroll and level again or pay for a transfer to consolidate with their like-minded players who wanted Forever Classic.

Should I go on?

@Joyson-sulfuras

thats dumb. bro literally all blizzard would have to do is copy paste the character data. stop misdirecting.

Not misdirecting at all. I already level every classic to 60 in retail. Blizzard could have just as easily allowed me or anyone else who has a max level of a class on retail to have that class at 60 on aclassic. The data for premade classes are there. They could have copied it for me or anyone else. Why do you think Classic and Forever Classic would be different from Retail and Classic? If you want to play both you have to put in the required work to play both.

@Joyson-sulfuras

transfer you character FROM vanilla TO tbc

The characters going to TBC are not being trasnferred at all. Classic is progressing into its first expansion. No transfer is occuring. The only transfers that are happening are those who choose to play Forever Classic.

@Joyson-sulfuras

on retail, no. thats because retail is different from the classic. DUUUURRRRRRRRRR

No, it isn’t Retail and Classic are the exact same except spread apart by 15 years. Forever Classic and Classic/Retail is different.

@Joyson-sulfuras

it is factually the same thing as deleting. FULL 100 % FACT.

If by fact you me fiction then yes.

@Joyson-sulfuras

on vanilla

You never had it on Forever Classic in this first place. How can you delete something that never existed?

@Joyson-sulfuras

why?

bro literally the rest of your reply is a full on multi page essay you need to be more concise and stop maliciously misdirecting

Why did we have to level in classic? We already did it on Retail… This is your argument. You will deny it, but it is.

You only have one Joyson, not two. Only one Joyson will exist. You choose where you want that Joyson to be. You can’t get something from nothing.

@Joyson-sulfuras

how do you not understand why we are mad that blizzard is doing something completely unnecessary that deletes months of millions of player’s time? that we paid blizzard for?

No, it is still very much there nothing was deleted and nothing was gained. All as it should be.

@Bankval-netherwind

I mean the idea isnt bad. I mean play the thought of a perma 60 server through. Its just gonna die out eventually. If not in 6 month then maybe in another year. You can only raid naxx so much. The server will also not gain new players. Nobody wants to start from zero where 95% of the population has already finished the journey.

Fresh classic is the best idea. Reset it every 2 years.

I agree… honestly the best option would probably be a few P6 permanent servers with a new server coming online every two years that people will know that it will get deleted after those two years so they don’t think they get to keep that character. Maybe offer xfers off that server to the P6 permanent if you wanted to keep the character…

[Zarx-arugal]

And what about the people who want to play both? I’m now stuck between either restarting and losing a year of progress on Classic or TBC.

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Kurogano-thunderfury

Should I go on?

please present factual evidence for your claims before trying to lie and say your opinions are basis for your arguments

[Woopee-mankrik]

You can be deliberately obtuse if you want, but if you want to play TBC with the main you have invested so much time into, you have to delete it from Classic servers.

We should be able to copy your character onto a Classic server when servers progress to TBC. We should not be forced to choose one or the other for our existing characters.

[Kaelrynn-area-52]

@Joyson-sulfuras

so, if you dont advance to tbc, your character wont be there.

You know why it wont be there? Because its in classic forever.

Ergo, not deleted

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Kaelrynn-area-52

You know why it wont be there? Because its in classic forever.

@Kaelrynn-area-52

Ego, not deleted

ok. youre right. just deleted off the tbc server

[Maully-thunderfury]

@Joyson-sulfuras

there is really only 2 sides to this argument. side 1, logical and reasonable, simply knows blizzard can let us play our characters on tbc and vanilla without any problems, but instead is forcing us to choose which one we want our characters on.

side 2 is a group of antagonistic reply bots trying to misdirect the point away from players having to choose which game they want their character

Glad to see we can have a reasoned discussion lol

truly yours,
antagonistic reply bot

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Maully-thunderfury

Glad to see we can have a reasoned discussion

hey bro ive been fighting the good fight clearing out all the BS bring it on

[Rogmarr-kelthuzad]

They obviously want to consolidate the Classic forever community. Probably into just a couple of servers and I can’t really blame them. Otherwise its going to lead to dead realms.

[Kaelrynn-area-52]

@Woopee-mankrik

if you want to play TBC with the main you have invested so much time into, you have to delete it from Classic servers.

What? That makes no sense. If you want to play TBC with the main you have invested so much time into, just do nothing. Your server that you are on now where your gear is, is still there. You just get a new expansion.

@Woopee-mankrik

We should be able to copy your character onto a Classic server when servers progress to TBC. We should not be forced to choose one or the other for our existing characters.

I agree.

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Kaelrynn-area-52

What? That makes no sense. If you want to play TBC with the main you have invested so much time into, just do nothing.

dont do nothing. i repeat, dont do nothing.

• Choose Your Era – Prior to Burning Crusade Classic’s release, WoW Classic players can decide whether to advance each of their characters to the Burning Crusade era with the rest of their realm, or to continue playing the original WoW Classic content on new Classic Era servers.

[Kurogano-thunderfury]

@Joyson-sulfuras

please present factual evidence for your claims before trying to lie and say your opinions are basis for your arguments

Learn from history or you are doomed to repeat it.

1, Dead Realms. Proven fact by people constantly moving forward over the course of wows history with the minority going to pservers to play a static expansion. This pattern repeating in Classic WoW and Forever Classic will result in dead Forever Classic realms.

2. This is simply a fact. If every person character is copied so that they have both a TBC Classic and Forever Classic version of themselves. The majority will not ever play on one of those two characters. resulting in names being taken by characters that never played on that realm.

3. The vast majority of the player base will move forward to TBC this is again a fact. Any given expansions fans are in a minority and the majority will always play the most recent version available to them. If we follow what you want. You will end up with ton of Forever Classic players on dead realms because of majority of their realm decided to go and play TBC. Resulting in them either having to transfer off the server or making a new character on the server that the rest of the forever classic community is playing.

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Rogmarr-kelthuzad

dead realms

opinion. again.

[Woopee-mankrik]

@Kaelrynn-area-52

What? That makes no sense. If you want to play TBC with the main you have invested so much time into, just do nothing. Your server that you are on now where your gear is, is still there. You just get a new expansion.

Is it an act or are you really this dense? It’s getting hard to tell.

I have nearly the best gear in the game right now. I’d like to play TBC and still be able to come log into my character with the best gear in the game. I can’t do that if I progress to TBC. It isn’t literally deleted from Classic servers but it might as well be.

[Kurogano-thunderfury]

@Joyson-sulfuras

dont do nothing. i repeat, dont do nothing.

He is right a player that chooses to do nothing would have the character progressed into TBC as it is the server change not the character.

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Kurogano-thunderfury

history

historical world of warcraft facts

@Kurogano-thunderfury

1, Dead Realms. Proven fact by people constantly moving forward over the course of wows history with the minority going to pservers to play a static expansion.

lol durrrr

@Kurogano-thunderfury

Proven fact

@Kurogano-thunderfury

simply a fact

@Kurogano-thunderfury

this is again a fact

watch this

fact fact fact fact fact

nope, still doesnt make it a fact

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Kurogano-thunderfury

He is right a player that chooses to do nothing would have the character progressed into TBC as it is the server change not the character

its difficult to judge from the corp speak blizzard wrote in, but it seems like blizzard will do the same thing they did with the classic name reservation, but this time it will be character transfer instead

[Kurogano-thunderfury]

@Joyson-sulfuras

nope, still doesnt make it a fact

Kind of does… that past is written in stone. It can’t change. What has happen already occurred thus it is factual. Are you actually trying to deny the past?

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Kurogano-thunderfury

Kind of does… that past is written in stone. It can’t change. What has happen already occurred thus it is factual. Are you actually trying to deny the past

what past? what fact?