Why are be being forced to choose what era to play in?

[Esperia-whitemane]

I’m not sure where the thought of a character copy even came from. There’s no precedent for it on live servers, and it goes against what Classic is even about. P6 forever servers won’t work anyway.

Also for those wanting to raid multiple nights, good luck organizing that with a guild.

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Stango-benediction

Do you really

reply bot much

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Esperia-whitemane

I’m not sure where the thought of a character copy even came from.

from the intelligent people who understand how this game is coded and developed.

@Esperia-whitemane

There’s no precedent for it on live servers

irrelevant

@Esperia-whitemane

it goes against what Classic is even about

blah blah blah blah, opinion opinion opinion, and it actually doesnt btw, and you cant prove that it does, and youre just slandering the opposing idea via easy vague statements.

@Esperia-whitemane

P6 forever servers won’t work anyway

blah blah blah opinion disguised as argument

@Esperia-whitemane

Also for those wanting to raid multiple nights, good luck organizing that with a guild

blah blah blah seriously got anything important to say?

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Snucka-sulfuras

Oh boo hoo

like i said guys, the other side is literally antagonistic reply bots seeking attention

[Kurogano-thunderfury]

@Chucktaurus-fairbanks

“Nice enough” is not enough though, not for this small indie company. The best thing for the players is to have both. The OP is correct. There just isn’t a good reason not to give players their characters on vanilla and TBC.

There are several very valid reasons. Just they are ones you aren’t willing to accept the reality of.

@Chucktaurus-fairbanks

No. Players don’t. That’s his point. We don’t have the option to play both. Forcing players to choose one or the other is lame.

You do have the option of playing both. You don’t have that option to duplicate everything you have to play both without the extra effort that playing both would require. Just like playing classic and retail.

@Joyson-sulfuras

then you dont understand what “advance to tbc” means

I do, but at this point I’m pretty sure you don’t. I could swear I still have my hunter that was “advanced to tbc” then “advanced to wrath” then “advanced to cata” then “advanced to MoP” then “advanced to WoD” then “advanced to Legion” then “advanced to BfA” then “advanced to SL”. Nothing was deleted.

@Joyson-sulfuras

and choosing which game will not have all of that in. functionally the same thing as deleting it off that version of the game.

Oh, come off it. That is not functionally the same thing as deleting it. Deleting it would be you no longer have access to it. You have access to it, You are choosing where you want to play it, and You will have to do the extra work if you want to play that same exact character somewhere else. Just as if you wanted to play on two separate realms or play on both retail and classic.

You are right though. It is a separate version of the game. Forever Classic is not Classic. Forever Classic is a version of wow that will never progress. you should be thank blizzard that they are allowing you to transfer your Classic character to a separate version of the game in Forever Classic instead of forcing you to level all over again.

@Martharion-pagle

what if we got blizzard to make a compromise? instead of forcing us to move to tbc, they kept the intact servers as classic and allowed us to copy over the characters we wanted to play in TBC? this would avoid the extra mass of un-played characters that folks are worried about?

No, it would be the same exact issue people are worried about but with extra steps. You would still have an abundance of un-played characters on a ton of dead realms instead of a few forever classic realms with a healthy and functioning population and community.

The reality is simply that the vast majority of players are going forward and any given version of Forever WoW will have a minority of players compared to the larger wholes that are retail and classic.

@Piper-shadowsong

That is my concern. I would like my Classic Piper to have her spot and progress for Classic specific only servers meanwhile progressing her into BC. I don’t want to progress her into BC and lose Classic Piper for Classic specific Servers.

I do not agree with this decision.

Joyson may have broken my brain. I am not entirely sure what you mean here… you want your classic toon to stay in classic and not progress into TBC? Then more her to the Forever Classic realms… or do you mean you want to duplicate the character thus not having to put the time and effort it would take to have two pipers on two separate types of wow?

I can’t keep up with this thread… I’m skipping to the end screw it if someone answers any question I asked already.

[Piper-shadowsong]

@Kaelrynn-area-52

The title of this thread is “Why are we being forced to choose what era to play in” and we aren’t. You can literally play in both, which is my point

I understand what you’re saying, while the OP may have worded it poorly, I understand what the OP means and explaining it. Which is:

@Kaelrynn-area-52

“why do I have to choose where my progress goes”

So, let’s stick with that.

@Kaelrynn-area-52

I personally feel like they should allow copying. I see no harm in it

I was hoping for this:

@Piper-shadowsong

Blizzard will Copy everyone’s progress (on the Classic Servers, if they have any). Then, they will Paste it over onto their BC Servers. Anyone who did NOT start in Classic but wants to play in BC WILL have to start at level 1, if they want to play the BC version of WoW. Just like I had to, when I began my WoW journey, in BC. I had no character that was pre-BC. If you’re post-BC but want to play BC, that is what you will have to do. And, Classic will remain as is.

OR

Blizzard will Copy everyone’s progress (on the Classic Server, if they have any). Then, they will Paste it over onto their “new” Classic Servers. While they progress the Classic Servers (as they are, now) onto BC. And, the “new” Classic Servers, will be that: Classic. Again, if you didn’t play pre-BC, you don’t get the luxury of having a max level character (in this case, a level 60) to go play in Outlands with. You must start at level 1 in either version, of the game. Unless it’s the Standard Version then just pay real life money for a Boost.

If all else fails, I wouldn’t mind their BC Servers being “fresh”, like I said. But, I definitely believe I’m in the minority pool, of that one. IK I’m not the ONLY one, but it certainly isn’t the most popular option.

Again, I really don’t want Classic to cease existing, AGAIN.

@Kaelrynn-area-52

but here we are

Yep (sigh)

[Snucka-sulfuras]

@Esperia-whitemane

P6 forever servers won’t work anyway.

People don’t realize this…and that’s why they are tied to the notion of keeping their progress.

I hit 60 on my druid on a pserver a 2 weeks before their new cycle rolled out…

My first thought:
“Oh, there will be plenty of people who will remain on the old server, don’t worry—you can still play your druid”.

What happened:
Absolute ghost town.

Most Classic lovers want a fresh progression cycle and not forever P6…and people will realize this sooner or later.

This is anecdotal…sure…but I bet it pans out this way. If not—then hey, I was wrong!

[Piper-shadowsong]

@Kurogano-thunderfury

Joyson may have broken my brain.

Um, no?

@Kurogano-thunderfury

or do you mean you want to duplicate the character thus not having to put the time and effort it would take to have two pipers on two separate types of wow?

This, if you so choose to think of it that way, sure

EDIT: To be frank, I wouldn’t have minded “fresh” BC Servers, BTW.

@Stango-benediction

The reason is to condsolidate to keep the player base on a few servers not on 30 dead servers.

But, I will say, this does make sense. I was hoping they would worry about that later, but here we are

[Noobshot-benediction]

Plenty of demand for classic era only servers.
Just like there will be demand for TBC era only servers.

The way they are doing it all the players will be able to choose where they want to play.

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Kurogano-thunderfury

There are several very valid reasons. Just they are ones you aren’t willing to accept the reality of

lets hear it

@Kurogano-thunderfury

You do have the option of playing both

correct

@Kurogano-thunderfury

You don’t have that option to duplicate everything you have to play both without the extra effort that playing both would require

thats dumb. bro literally all blizzard would have to do is copy paste the character data. stop misdirecting.

@Kurogano-thunderfury

@Joyson-sulfuras

then you dont understand what “advance to tbc” means

I do

no, you dont.

@Kurogano-thunderfury

but at this point I’m pretty sure you don’t.

transfer you character FROM vanilla TO tbc (no longer able to play vanilla with that character)

@Kurogano-thunderfury

I could swear I still have my hunter that was “advanced to tbc” then “advanced to wrath” then “advanced to cata” then “advanced to MoP” then “advanced to WoD” then “advanced to Legion” then “advanced to BfA” then “advanced to SL”. Nothing was deleted

on retail, no. thats because retail is different from classic. DUUUURRRRRRRRRR

@Kurogano-thunderfury

@Joyson-sulfuras

and choosing which game will not have all of that in. functionally the same thing as deleting it off that version of the game.

Oh, come off it. That is not functionally the same thing as deleting it.

it is factually the same thing as deleting. FULL 100 % FACT.

@Kurogano-thunderfury

Deleting it would be you no longer have access to it.

on vanilla

@Kurogano-thunderfury

You have access to it,

not on vanilla

@Kurogano-thunderfury

You are choosing where you want to play it

yeah, vanilla or tbc

@Kurogano-thunderfury

You will have to do the extra work if you want to play that same exact character somewhere else.

why?

bro literally the rest of your reply is a full on multi page essay you need to be more concise and stop maliciously misdirecting

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Snucka-sulfuras

@Esperia-whitemane

P6 forever servers won’t work anyway.

People don’t realize this

realize what? someone’s opinion? DUUUURRRRRRR

[Kaelrynn-area-52]

I just wanna know…

How do you guys have enough time to play tbc and classic at the same time?

I need this invaluable life hack.

[Piper-shadowsong]

@Kaelrynn-area-52

How do you guys have enough time to play tbc and classic at the same time?

I need this invaluable life hack

Considering the state of the world…nothing else better to do

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Kaelrynn-area-52

How do you guys have enough time to play tbc and classic at the same time?

how do you not understand why we are mad that blizzard is doing something completely unnecessary that deletes months of millions of player’s time? that we paid blizzard for?

[Noobshot-benediction]

Joyson i suggest you start thinking if you keep your toon in classic or go to tbc. My advise is keep your toon in classic and remake your new toon for tbc. that way your classic toon is saved and you can just remake to play in tbc… you welcome.

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Noobshot-benediction

Joyson i suggest you start thinking if you keep your toon in classic or go to tbc

oh i dont have any choice. i either delete my vanilla character to play tbc or find a new guild.

[Kaelrynn-area-52]

How is it deleted? You get to keep your character in TBC or Classic forever, you lucky ducky.

[Joyson-sulfuras]

@Kaelrynn-area-52

How is it deleted?

you either choose tbc or vanilla. you cant have your character on both. which is possible, but blizzard is taking an extra step and forcing players to choose which game they want their characters deleted off of

[Bankval-netherwind]

I mean the idea isnt bad. I mean play the thought of a perma 60 server through. Its just gonna die out eventually. If not in 6 month then maybe in another year. You can only raid naxx so much. The server will also not gain new players. Nobody wants to start from zero where 95% of the population has already finished the journey.

Fresh classic is the best idea. Reset it every 2 years.

[Snucka-sulfuras]

@Joyson-sulfuras

realize what? someone’s opinion? DUUUURRRRRRR

I’ll give you that—it IS an opinion…but unfortunately if a majority of the population’s opinion is that they want to go to TBC or do a fresh Vanilla cycle…that effects the livelihood of your P6 forever server. I’m not saying your opinion is wrong—I’m just saying your AREN’T going to enjoy what you think P6 forever server will be like considering the mass exodus to either TBC or fresh Vanilla. But we will see.

I’m just guessing…but, unless they consolidate/merge the Forever servers…your server will be a ghost town.