Never had a good experience with them in group. Why is that?
Worth noting that I can literally do the same 9 grim batol without azralon or rags, mostly zuljins, and clear it with 10 mins remaining and zero deaths by anyone as well as perfect play. While on the 9 grims, ragnaros/Azralon players die multiple times to mechanics, screw them up constantly, then ragequit.
Iāve heard part of it is a language barrier and maybe not understanding chatā¦but most people donāt talk in groups anymore so I donāt know. I always avoid those servers because of disconnects, and because one time during a mythic + 20 the healer said he had to take a bath and just disappearedā¦
Iāve met some fantastic players from these servers. Iāve also met some players who openly admit they troll to fit the stereotype given to them. Those servers do genuinely have some amazing players, but they get a bad rap for just being from those servers.
People make excuses for them through the language barrier or latency, but even if they host and stack their own groups theyāre generally very bad.
I find most of them just donāt understand mechanics, even basic ones such as interrupting or within their own class. Iāve stopped inviting them altogether to my own keys, as well as Stormrage, since that became their stealth server in the past year or two.
Iām pretty sure that Azralon is one of the most progressed servers in the game. Their top end is better than anyone in this thread by several orders of magnitude.
all the good latam players (and there are a ton) end up in the same organized communities because the value of a WoW token and gold relative to their real currency is much better than USD so itās much more worth their time to sell boosts for IG gold and then turn around and sell that gold via RMT to contribute to their income.
The rest are the scraps, and the scraps of any server/people group are usually terrible.
This very forum is infested by terrible players from non-latam regions
Theyāre not below average. If you look at most of their IOās, youāll see. The run a ton of keys and quite often are the carry groups for those of you that purchase key runs.
They just donāt waste their time on things that donāt earn full completion. Are they sometimes the problem? Sure. But so are a lot of NA players. Iāve had more key fails with folks that arenāt from there. Kind of disappointing.
The other day I had an Azra tank pull all adds onto gatekeeper in my 11 NW. He bailed on that pull when heals died. I wonāt be bringing any more from that server to keys I care about. Iāve run with some decent people from above mentioned servers, but they are the exception to the rule in my experience.
Itās confirmation bias. Itās xenophobic ignorance based on the fact that the latin servers were added long after the gameās original release. At one point the servers were full of new, or newly transferred toons.
Exactly as with the US servers when they were released, players were learning the ins and outs. Nowadays the player skill spectrum probably mirrors all the other servers, with players ranging from RFW down.
Every US (and surely EU and Asian) server has players who are as bad, or worse than players on Latin servers. There are probably more bad players on Illidan-US than all the Latin servers combined, but because the racists havenāt hard-coded their brains to be triggered by that server name they donāt establish the confirmation bias.
Hating on those servers by default is a red flag in my book that suggests a narrow mind and limited perspective.
I can only go based on what my personal experience has been with those servers, which overall has not been good. Dragging racism into it is completely unnecessary and suggests an agenda.
You have played with bad players from every server. You just didnāt make a mental note of it.
Youāve probably played with more bad players from a single specific US server than youāve played with from all the latin servers combined.
Again, itās just that you havenāt created a running narrative about those severs that you latch onto every time you see them do something you donāt like.
Could be. Iāve run thousands of pug keys, and my assumptions/conclusions are my own. But it still didnāt need to be made into a racist thing.
Iām not calling you a racist. Iām calling out racist behaviors.
Having thoughts doesnāt make you a racist. Acting on them does. Going out of your way to make a thread stereotyping an entire server group based on faulty logic is the hallmark of racism.
Itās ignorance, parading as insight, propped up by mindless repetition of a false narrative.
Iām not here for it.
Theyāre just trying to protect their serverās players, whichever it may be. Iāve talked to the people on those 3 recently- the thing is, anyone worth a dang on them doesnāt pug anymore. At all. Like someone said, they all partake in the booster/RMT community, one way or another. The good ones are the boosters, the rest are the boostees. I donāt mind hard carrying one person in 9s, but stuff like a Azralon prot paladin refusing to position a raid boss is unacceptable.
Giving specific examples is mindless repetition?
I could give you 1 million specific examples of how players from my guild have made ridiculous, inexcusable mistakes. Does that mean that everyone from Illidan is suspect and should be lumped into some ādonāt inviteā category.
Neither of you guys have killed Heroic Queen and youāre in here giving Ted Talks on whoās good and bad at this game.
Puhā¦lease
So youāre saying theyāre bad specifically because they are of a particular ethnicity, and not because the server itself has any issues? Noone mentioned ethnicity, just server.
Donāt act ignorant. Thatās also a hallmark of a dumb racist.
āIām just tellinā the truth yer honorā¦ā
Nah, youāre saying āpoor people can be smart tooā in a talk about servers. News flash. Servers and countries all have multiple ethnicities of players. Or should. Just because pugs from a specific realm are bad, doesnāt mean they all (all pugs, or all people from that realm) are- just the ones the rest of their realm refuses to form long term groups with are bad.
No, it is simply that some servers have poorer reputations than others, people gave examples of why, and you came in and started saying that itās a racism thing. Good grief.
Also, I hate raiding.