No of course not, he’s arguing wrath wasn’t designed around having duel spec, and classes not being able to fulfill any role as proof.
Correct, WoTLK was not designed around having Dual Spec.
Ruins the game balance, increases min/maxing, destroys immersion and is simply born out of a retail mentality to be inherently lazy and have instant gratification, both don’t mix well with an MMO plus the two points you have mentioned.
Dual Spec is not #somechanges. It would be #majorchanges. And many players didn’t even want #somechanges (except maybe for bugfixes)
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In WotLK, about a year and some change from now.
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That is correct i believe.
This however is not true, and not the goal of that statement.
No.
No.
2009 feature born out of a retail mentality. ok.
You quoted me referring to someone else and attribute it as something I said. Doesn’t get much more dishonest that that.
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If we were in #NoChanges, maybe. But the community trashed that.
Every time you falsely claim that WoTLK was designed with Dual Spec in mind, you are propagating misinformation.
I’m not the dishonest one here.
How many times do you have to say “duel” spec instead of dual spec?
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No, that was your proof. You basically dismantled your own argument where you attempted to justify Dual Spec’s existence because of the “Bring the Player, Not the Class” design philosophy. I basically got you to use your own reasoning to show how Dual Spec and this design philosophy are in no way linked to each other.
And besides, you still haven’t cited anything proving yourself anyway.
And you can’t because that citation doesn’t exist. So all you have left is either acceptance of obfuscation. Given the attitudes of most folks using these forums, you’re likely to obfuscate and make a fool of yourself. That’s fine by me because it keeps the thread bumped and ensures Blizzard gets to see more of this. 
so dual speccing into fire for this fight makes it harder or easier? ok?
Here’s some better questions:
Why play TBC if you want features already in Retail?
When you get dual-spec, what will be the next Retail feature you ask for?
What’s the point of there being a TBC “Classic”, if you’re not here to experience the way TBC originally was?
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What feature? Dual Spec? Dual Spec was implemented in Wrath.
Are you saying Wrath = Retail?
Loaded question. First prove it is a retail feature.
The answer to his is obvious:
Was Seal of the Martyr available in original TBC?
Was Powershifting?
Was FvF in BGs?
Was a Level 58 Boost available?
Was a Rift Stalker mount available?
Patch 2.4.3 on release?
Better question is, are you here to experience the way TBC originally was?
Dual Spec is not a retail feature. Dual Spec was implemented in patch 3.1.0, which was released in April of 2009. You’re welcome.
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Oh yeah. You’re right.
Dual-Spec isn’t a retail feature.
You’re welcome.
I fail to see the “gotcha” in this post.
Actually I got into a thread a few months ago where this was the sentiment held by at least two people replying to me. They stated that with Classic, All expansions qualified as retail. And once TBC came out, it was now part of not retail, and again, everything after was retail.
I do still have trouble understanding that specific line of thought.
And looking at the latest reply from raise, maybe he does too.
Giving a secondary spec to players making it possible to fulfill multiple roles very much does fit the bring the player not the class philosophy. There being limitations to what roles classes can fulfill does not negate that.
Let me break it down to you.
TBC is not WoTLK.
You said Dual-Spec is not a Retail feature…
…then why does Retail have it and TBC doesn’t?
The answer is in the video.