This is a legit question, whos enjoying these and why, I’m truly curious, I find this is just literal bloat and really unfun, its a huge turn off for me personally for retail.
Edit:
I feel I should clarify the intention of the thread, no its not 17 abilities, although it was at some point, its more 17 actions/sequence just to start your normal rotation, and it may vary between 10-17, but ultimately its a boring annoying gameplay.
It ruins the rotation cadence.
Examples?
So far I’ve played a majority of the classes to KSM and nothing felt too hard.
Some of them hit like wet noodles, but that’s more garbage balancing.
lmao.
Outlaw and Sub come to mind, I haven’t been on retail for 6 months, but the game has left a huge bad taste in my mouth, trying to understand why the game direction has gone this way, none of it is any fun.
i ask you who enjoys only have 1 or 2 buttons to push? cause i dont. i like feeling like im doin somethin
Exaggerate much? If you are trying to use all your abilities as an opener you are doing it wrong.
So don’t play Rogue? There’s a reason it’s the least played class. Go play Ret.
Not myself. I’m just going to be lazy and use the 1 button rotation. It’s really not worth all that much effort.
Outlaw is not 17 buttons. They are hella fast though.
It’s like, 2 buttons. Even less if you use the memelord build of Keep It Rolling.
The “17 button” meme is fun, because it’s the journey of mastering the class at high levels of play that makes it rewarding.
Never played Subtlety tho. Could be right about that.
lmao.
I hear that… so many freaking buttons that could be passive… but yeah ret pally or hunter if you just want to headbutt the keyboard and top charts. 
Seriously who actually has a 17 button opener ?
Are you counting pre pots as part of the 17 buttons ?
Are you counting lust on boss pull as part of the 17 ?
Do tell what actual class/spec has to actually use 17 buttons for opening boss fights.
I have a 17 button opener.
I hit 17 buttons and then go afk for the rest of the fight.
One of many many reasons I play Ret.
17 is hyperbole but according to Wowhead’s spec guide, Feral Druid has 12 steps in their ST opener.
Who has a 1-2 button rotation, pretty sure that hasn’t been the case since WotLK
Here’s the Brewmaster opener for M+ packs:
Keg Smash - Breath of Fire - Blackout Kick - Weapons of Order - Rising Sun Kick - Tiger Palm - Blackout Kick - Tiger Palm - Keg Smash x2 - Blackout Kick - Tiger Palm - Breath of Fire - Celestial Brew - Rising Sun Kick - Blackout Kick - Tiger Palm - Chi Burst - Exploding Keg - Keg Smash - Blackout Kick - Tiger Palm.
i was just asking why you would
Doesn’t that occur over 22 seconds due to the global cooldown?
That looks like the opener, but I don’t know, I would need to check with my bear friends
Note, that I’m pulling that off the dome, so I could be missing something, but that’s the gist of it.
Yessir, we do be out here- opening up with 17 buttons, fam.
No one has 17 button openers.
Double/triple/quadruple counting abilities because people use them more than once.
Don’t count abilities more than once.
Else you might well do something truly ludicrous, 900 button opener (because that’s how long it takes boss to die.)
Sadly, it’s a combination of how badly designed Weapons of Order and Master of Harmony are. If you’re missing the Celestial Brew and everything after it, you haven’t finished the opener, yet. 