Actually more lower tier raid content is needed badly. Many people are leaving guilds/the game in general and progression for casual raiders could use a boost. Bwl didn’t bring back many players.
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Very much agreed yeah, for the health of the game earlier ZG would be great overall.
More content doesn’t take away anything from anybody. I know when ZG is out I will need to let myself miss a raid lockout here and there. Will def miss some ZG raid windows and that’s OK. I missed many months of MC so whatevs.
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Exactly.
There’s two mindsets that are prevalent among raiders that are contradictory to each other.
1.) Many people think the raids are too easy.
2.) Many people feel the need to hit every single lockout of every raid.
People make the content too easy through their own actions and mindsets. Not everyone needs to min/max the raid lockouts, people are going to have to learn this sooner or later. It doesn’t matter if ZG comes out in two months or four.
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I wouldn’t be upset if it came out sooner but we definitely don’t need it right now.
ZG and Ulduar are my two favourite raids, really looking forward to it.
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That’s why this game is so amazing man.
There is so much to do and so many ways to progress. A single character is a multi-year journey. And it can be played in so many different ways.
People who get anxious about “doing it all asap” are really susceptible to burnout, and that’s the biggest change I’ve tried to make with my own mindset in Classic vs Vanilla. I actually quit and came back a couple times during vanilla and ultimately fell behind due to that. Going with the “marathon, not a race” mindset is really helpful for us older people at least.
Also, the more content that gets released, the bigger and more exciting the world gets and the more options there are. It also doesn’t necessarily make any of the previous raid or even dungeon content obsolete either. There are best in slot pieces for many classes (and guilds, like Thunderfury bindings for example) in each raid tier.
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Very true, especially for PvP servers. I think people might enjoy a little variety from the Blackrock Brawling with a little Stranglethorn Showdown.
You realize retail has timegating, right? Like… a lot more than Classic does.
Too bad you don’t like my answers. What I want to happen and what blizz will do are two different things. Yes I want no changes but I’m not stupid. Blizz will do what they want. By your logic we should have had bwl sooner.
Vanilla bgs: 7 June 05
Vanilla bwl: 12 July 05
Classic bgs: 10 Dec 19
Classic bwl: 12 Feb 20
So yeah. Blizzard doesn’t care what you or i want. Stop changing my words to fit what you want. Sure I’m no changes but im not naive either. Blizzard will release it when they want and I doubt they release zg that close to bwl.
Oh… you agree with me then? ZG should release in early April?
You just came into this thread to argue and bicker with me because…?
I do not agree. If we started at patch 1.1 and moved from there I would. I don’t want phase 4 in 2 months. Phases change everything.
Oh, so you’re not No-changes anymore.
Okay then.
Just seems a little odd as you previously applied your No-changes stance to even paid transfers:
You didn’t even want the paid transfers to deviate from the Vanilla schedule. It’s almost like you want things to release when you personally feel ready for them.
It’s almost like you didn’t have a good reason to troll my thread…
Lol you’re one of those people who don’t have a flexible bone in their body. It’s one or the other. No grey areas. This has nothing to do with no changes. Blizzard will do what they want. And you know what? Yes. Im bored at work. Im gonna argue with you till i get off work.
ZG is a super fun raid, but let’s stop and enjoy blackwing lair, too.
When classic wow reaches Naxx, there’s nothing left. Why rush it?
So they can sit around and fuss it was released to fast and they have nothing to do. Been the same for 15 years, why should Classic change anything?
We did it, Dad! We cleared it under 2 hours, are you proud?
Back in my day, we got up early in the morning, at 10 o’clock at night, and walked to BWL, in the pouring rain, during a sandstorm, naked.
And stopped at goldshire, to buy grey gear…
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Woohoo! It’s been so dang long since I played the original ZG, I can’t wait.
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I hate you so much right now.
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I mean I really want the hit, but I would prefer slower content releases.
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I think its way too soon. A guy in my guild thinks shadowlands is gonna release after Naxx. And honestly hes probably not wrong. So now we are speeding thru classic so they can cash in on Shadowlands. I’ll never step foot on Shadowlands though.
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