pretty sure we learned that the jailer created everything including the first ones?
is that not what shadowlands was or did I skip too much?
it was the 7th power outside the 6.
My current theory is that the Titans are seeded into planets by whatever the “Zereth” of Order is. I say this because we have been led to believe by current lore that there is a Zereth for each of the cosmic forces, Zereth Mortis being the Zereth of Death.
I am also of the mind that this will tie into a coming war with the Pantheon and Murozond. Originally Murozond’s final words were “Aman’thul… …what I have seen…” and from the way it was said, it would lead one to think he was calling out to his creator in a final plea of supplication, as he died… The truth of the words could also have a far darker meaning behind them.
What if Murozond / Nozdormu foresaw the Titans doing something evil or horrific? Then he could be saying it more like… “Aman’thul!!”, or calling out the architect of some coming horror. Perhaps it is also what Aman’thul will do, which drives Nozdormu to become Murozond, to stop it. There was a trinket called “Highfather’s Machination” after all.
But as the writers have pointed out, we have experienced the Titans when we are in their good graces. What then would the experience be were we their enemy, or perhaps even the Light’s enemy?
The Light made a deal with the enemy of all, the supposed 7th cosmic force. So there is a lot of stuff happening in the background. I didn’t get the chance to mention it in the other thread either, but I agree with what Siobhan and Lilithia were saying in it. Just wanted to add that in also. So if you two see this, consider me in total agreement with all of what you said.
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zereth ordos for order, zereth umbra for void,
Awesome run down, thanks. Titans have always interested me, and I’ve never been a lore person.
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The shadow lands are just a small part of what the cosmos are. The Jailer created our Current reality but nothing else there are still realms with in realms they are stronger than the jailer.
This is the wow cosmology chart from Chronicles. If you look at reality the emerald dream and the shadow lands are 1 step off from reality. Where everything else is beyond that.
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That chart is amazing. Frame-worthy for the wall.
Was that confirmed by the Developers? I have not seen either in the game info yet, but Uldorus was mentioned during BFA briefly; and now in Uldaman (Uldorus is the official name of the new wing) we have seen some evidence that perhaps Tyr’s motives with the Proto-Drakes were not completely benign.
so are you saying void elves are stronger than jailer since void is separate from SL?
How many expansions until we fight the Void itself?
You have 2 choices:
“They always existed” IE the stance of the Abrahamic faiths when it comes to God.
or
Infinite regress. IE “X created the Titans, X2 created X who created the Titans, X3 created X2 who created X who created the Titans, and so on infinitely.”
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There is a third answer as well.
42.
No because they are finite beings infused with Void/shadow energy. No more that shadow priests or the twilight hammer. they are still finite beings only borrowing a minuscule fraction of that power.
None. The Void is nothing so we need a Null expansion to go here and fight it.
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I attack the darkness!
/rolls d20 dice
the names of the zereth’s was said in zereth mortis i cant remember where.
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All good. Thank you for the information!
All you need to know is that every cosmological force has a factory pumping out autobots
It comes up a 17. The moderator is buried in charts trying to figure out what that means but then realizes there is nothing on the charts. They are void of anything.
The void is not nothing. The Void Lords exist and they created the Old gods. The Void is the opposite of the Light. It is not nothing.
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