Who is more like a necromancer? Warlock or Shadow Priest?

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Necromancy in a fantasy setting typically involves practitioners using magic to manipulate the dead.

Specifically, raising the dead to fight their battles, or using body parts as magical weapons.

So, summoning zombies (human, animal), forming zombies composed of various unrelated bodies and parts, using bones as magical projectiles, and bone/flesh to spread diseases.

They can also sometimes manipulate the biology of living creatures, such as magically yanking bones out of a living victim, causing hemorrhages or other physical aliments magically.

On the defensive side, they can typically use bones as magical armor and repair their own bodies using flesh and bone from enemies.

Death Knights, specifically Unholy and Blood, most closely fits the theme of a necromancer in Warcraft.

Affliction Warlock and Shadow Priest kits mostly relate to causing damage to the metaphysical aspects of an enemy, such as their souls or minds.

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I think they just changed it because people complained and they never really gave a solid explanation for it.

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Yea, okay. Iā€™m not crazy. Why did the OP make literally the same post twice just under two different, but completely noticeable, alts?!?

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You tell me and weā€™ll both know :sunglasses:

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That isnā€™t a rule, we have seen countless times in WoW the undead risen by Death KNights are not mindless, they donā€™t have a will and in masses are mindless. Which shows that rule isnā€™t true, we have seen ghouls who think.

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I dunnoā€¦ Likely a Blizz ability change that has nothing to do with lore.

Agreed

We have? Do you mean Lurid? He doesnā€™t think, he follows basic commands. But look, if I absolutely had to pick one of the OPā€™s choices I would grudgingly pick Warlock, does that make you happy?

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Also, the first death knights were a creation of Gulā€™dan. I think he cut out the hearts of some followers to do it. Necromancy is basically a warlock invention.

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Cool, now argue why only a DK can do necromancy? How come when Gulā€™dan raised the first DKs, undead warriors, he isnā€™t a necromancer? Did he class swap real fast?

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It is, Warcraft devs just like to play fast and lose with the rules, which is why the retcon things theyā€™ve done in previous xpacs all the time.

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This was already explained to you. Go read it again.

Actually here, Iā€™ll make it easier for you.

Asked and answered.

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Oh. I wish blizzard would give lore for stuff like that. Oh well gameplay>lore I guess

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Sylvanas argued with Arthas the whole way but had to obey his command, it was his will not her mind that kept her thralled.

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Again, because youā€™re still not getting itā€¦

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Isnā€™t she a special case though? Like he wanted to torture and punish her for putting up such a resistance in pretty sure

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And I asked why mindless has any bearing on being necromancy or not. I thought Necromancy was death magic not mind control.

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Zul rasied Dazar, Dazar was PO and told Zul he would do what he commands but to shut up.

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Unholy deathknight as it uses death magic.
Afflictikn is plague diseas and afflictions. Destroy is fel and demo is well demons and spreist is shadow magic from the void. Death knights use death magicā€¦its no contest /thread

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Seriously, you need to do some outside research. Youā€™re just not picking up what we are laying down. Itā€™s been explained over and overā€¦

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Saying, itā€™s a fantasy game and has to follow the rules of other fantasy things isnā€™t an argument.

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What Gulā€™dan did to make DKā€™s in involved placing souls of Orcs in the dead bodies of humans. This is manipulation of the soul, a metaphysical aspect. Whereas the dead raised by a Necromancer is typical just a meat puppet.

But sometimes the lines are blurry and some powers can be shared across aspects. Just like how a DK can raise a recently deceased ally with soul intact, an ability shared with warlocks and druids.

Or warriors and paladins both whack things with steel.