Who is more like a necromancer? Warlock or Shadow Priest?

Necromancy is a specific thing.

You’re trying to come up with every other argument you can think of to make it NOT THAT THING.

You can raise a person as a Death Knight. That is NOT NECROMANCY.

A Death Knight can then raise a MINDLESS SKELETON. THAT is Necromancy.

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That’s a good point. I guess I kinda skimmed over the fact that zul was a necromancer but I’ve been fighting troll necromancers since zalazane so I guess it just wasn’t out of place to me

Why, what is the rule? Please explain that.

Research what, the definition of Necromancy which I posted?

So helpful, really cleared things up

Oh okay, so the made up rule they have to be mindless, got it. Or am I missing something?

Oh okay, so back to where we started, why does DnD or what ever else dictate what is and isn’t necromancy in WoW?

What if I told you just because Gul’dan created the first DK, that doesn’t make him a Necromancer, and that modern WoW DK’s are nothing like Teron’gor… I know… :exploding_head:

the first of whom was Teron Gorefiend. Unlike modern death knights of the Scourge, these ghoulish fiends were not battle hardened warriors; they were insidious necromancers who possessed superior intellect and tremendous magical power. They often favored the use of terror tactics and reanimated the corpses of enemy soldiers who fell in battle to serve them as mindless undead minions.

Don’t bother. Zen isn’t getting it and just wants to argue without doing any real research into Necromancy in fantasy games.

It would take only minutes to understand the difference, but Zen just wants to bicker.

I’m done here.

Zen, go learn something, come back when you do.

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Jesus Christ. Manipulating the dead in any way is necromancy.

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Gothik the Harvester is basically what people want in a new class and are the most similar to Unholy DK’s… He is not a Warlock or Spriest. Gul’dan and Teron’gor are irrelevent IMHO.

Gothik, the Harvester. A master of necromancy and conjuration, Gothik is said to be able to beckon forth legions of the undead at a moment’s notice. It is with his guidance that even the weakest of Death Knights can raise the dead.

Shadow priest is nothing like a necromancer tbh.

You could reskin demons to undead with warlock and it would already work out.

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Lore wise both spriests and warlocks can act and preform certain necromantic spells abilities and attributes. This however isn’t much of a big thing as pretty much every kind of magic can be used to resurrect the dead.

As for spriests one need look no further than WOD Nerzhul who uses void magic to raise orc skeletons from the Shadowmoon Valley graves. This is technically a version of necromancy…

As for warlocks, this class has been shown to have a great ability to manipulate souls much like the denizens of shadowlands do. We have seen multiple examples of warlocks taking souls to force them into the land of the living with fel. Creating first generation deathknights, raising mannoroth from the dead, creating bone and fel constructs.

As for which is better? It is subject to opinions because neither has as close a relationship with actual death magic necromancy like death knights.

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Warlocks mess with the magic of death and souls like you would expect necromancers to do. Also, the T2 set (Nemesis) looks very similar to the robes worn by necromancers in Warcraft 3. Neither warlock nor priest summons undead minions, but I would still say warlocks are the closest to necromancers from the caster classes.

A true necromancer class would have summoned undead minions, shadow and frost damage spells, fear spells, spells to control or turn undead, and the life and soul drains from the warlock class. It’ll never be added because its niche is already occupied by warlocks and death knights.

break down the word

necro means relating to a corpse or death.
the suffix "mancer means 1. A practitioner of a specific type of [divination] 2. A user of a specified type of magic

the choice is now obvious

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A necromancer is just a really late healer.

“You’re too late, Doc., He’s already dead…”

cracks knuckles “I didn’t get my medical license revoked for nothing.”

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Anyone can be a necromancer, just join the Maldraxxas covenant. It makes any class you have use necromancer magic thus making you a necromancer

I award you the Necro Lord of the Day Award. Which is sort of apt, really. :sunglasses:

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