Long story short: ALL gear is going to be the 1.12 version of the item, regardless of what phase it DOES release in or what stage of original progression it is compared to. People can’t seem to wrap their heads around this, or are flat out intentionally being trolls/idiots.
Phase 6 is later than 1.12
Ok now you’re just trolling.
https://classic.wowhead.com/item=19377/prestors-talisman-of-connivery
https://classic.wowhead.com/item=19364/ashkandi-greatsword-of-the-brotherhood
But you have to pvp for it, ew, i’ll take bwl for 5000 alex
Dragon stalker’s chest:
34 agi (53 agi = 1% crit)
14 int
17 stam
1% crit
Off last boss of BWL
Rank 10 blue pvp reward chestpiece:
16 agi
13 stam
6 int
2% crit
Let’s look at the 3 piece T2 bonus:
Increase the ranged attack power of aoth by 20%
Let’s look at the 2 piece blue pvp set bonus:
+20 agi = 40 atp and about 1/2% crit
The blue set is strictly better than the item from last boss of BWL. And the blue pvp item is better than T2 helm. And the 2 piece is MUCH better
No I promise you it is not. Phase 6 version was meant to be able to keep the pace with raid gear like naxx gear which was already out
If they release the phase 6 versions now the blue pvp set would be better than T1 raid gear
We’re getting the 1.12 versions.
Blizzard said as much:
That’ll change once phase 2 rolls around and we add the Honor System, which will introduce Honorable Kills, Dishonorable Kills, and PvP Rank Rewards. The items you earn from the PvP Rank Rewards will be the versions from patch 1.12.
The blue set is strictly better than the item from last boss of BWL.
Cool story. You said there was no reason to kill Nefarian. I said there was. Wasn’t talking about the chest.
Ashkandi is BiS for hunters in PvP if I’m not mistaken. Also there’s the +1% hit +30 agility necklace which is PvE hunter BiS.
I think you overestimate the number of people are going to shoot for those ranks, most will get to 3 for the discount and stop.
Some, like me, will never pvp at all because we don’t like it.
Whatever, tired of arguing with people
Sorry to crush your dreams that you can get phase 6 gear that comes later than 1.12 in phase 2
But I hope I’m wrong. Waiting on proof to be shown in game
Waiting on proof to be shown in game
There’s a blue quote that specifically addresses the issue in this thread.
The items you earn from the PvP Rank Rewards will be the versions from patch 1.12.
You gotta tone down your cognitive dissonance, friend. When everyone tells you that you are wrong you should probably re-evaluate. It’s ok to be incorrect. Insisting you’re right when you clearly are not is much worse.
I’m having hard time reading so basically 1.12 came before 1.5 and phase 6 I assume came from 1.9 which comes after 1.5 so that means the pvp set coming right now is the weak version not the phase 6 version?
That’s not how the patches work, common mistake. It goes like 1.5, 1.6, 1.7, 1.8, 1.9, 1.10, 1.11, 1.12.
So 1.12 is much later than 1.5
That real world money bet still up for grabs?
Lol legs are 2% crit and the gloves have +4% multishot damage, which is 1/3 as good as the 8 piece T1 set bonus, on a single piece of gear
This means that every single piece of blue pvp gear is LIGHT YEARS better than the T1 raid set, and the set bonus is just icing on the cake. I still hold to the fact that the full blue pvp set is actually still better than full T2 raid gear as well
Everyone will need to pvp to rank 10 to optimize their raid damage
What a joke. I mean whatever, if that’s what blizz wants to do. That’s nuts
The hunter Hands are specially insane, yes.
You seem to be assuming people are ALL going to be willing to spend their lives PVPing for the next 2 months to get marginal upgrades. For some classes, the differences are small. Some are huge, yes. Like me, I’ll be doing it because the Vanilla pally sets suck dong, but also because I ENJOYED PVP pre-BC. Seriously. Reign it in there man. This ain’t the end of the world.
Yeah it’s honestly a weird decision, but one I support because I personally hate raiding
Ah that makes sense. Thank you for clarifying.
The hunter Hands are specially insane, yes.
This will cause an uproar in the raid community if it is released in this form
Let’s do some side by side comparisons:
T2 legs off RAGNAROS:
31 agi
15 int
16 stam
1 hit
1 crit
Blue pvp set legs, lol:
16 agi
6 int
13 stam
2% crit
Let’s compare shoulders:
T2 shoulders from BWL:
23 agi
13 int
15 stam
1% hit
Blue pvp shoulders:
18 agi
13 stam
1% crit
This means if you didn’t need the hit, since 53 agi = 1% crit, that the blue pvp shoulders are better than the BWL T2 shoulders
Jesus
You’re still assuming enough people will care.
You seem to be assuming people are ALL going to be willing to spend their lives PVPing for the next 2 months to get marginal upgrades. For some classes, the differences are small. Some are huge, yes. Like me, I’ll be doing it because the Vanilla pally sets suck dong, but also because I ENJOYED PVP pre-BC. Seriously. Reign it in there man. This ain’t the end of the world.
Rank 10 is easy to get
Rank 10 is easy to get
Rank 10 is easy to get
I don’t know why all of a sudden everyone assumes rank 10 and rank 12-14 are the same thing