Who else’s blue pvp set sucks?

[Plopss-smolderweb]

Moral of the story is: ya’ll are wrong. You have this pipe dream that blizz is going to skip to phase 6 and they are not

Gg, have to get back to work

[Chucktaurus-fairbanks]

Moral of the story is: ya’ll are wrong.

Who is wrong or right isn’t important. What is important is spreading knowledge. I’ve learned a bit about hunter gear today. What did you learn?

[Twinbeard-windseeker]

The only information we have from blue posts on the PvP Content Plan is that PvP rank rewards are coming in Phase 2, and they are the 1.12 versions. Phase 6 doesn’t mention PvP rank reward changes, and there is no mention of upgrading the sets in the way that they did in Vanilla anywhere to be found. It is what it is. We’ll find out for sure shortly.

[Fearoftdark-herod]

So did anyone actually check the vendors to confirm/deny this or are you all employed browsing the forums at the work

[Twinbeard-windseeker]

To the latter point, yes, but that doesn’t matter because they don’t drop till 11 PST.

[Galdor-maelstrom (Galdor)]

@Plopss-smolderweb

Moral of the story is: ya’ll are wrong.

@Kaivax

Here’s an example of progressive itemization. The Tier 2 warrior Helm of Wrath originally had Spirit and Agility on it, as well as critical strike chance. In Patch 1.5.0, the helm’s stat budget was changed to Stamina, Strength, and Defense, along with elemental resistances. Then in Patch 1.7.0, the amount of Defense on the helm was reduced. In Patch 1.8.0, the 5-piece set bonus that included the helm was fixed to work with Whirlwind, and in 1.9.0, it got a better look with an art update.

WoW Classic will only include that last version of the item, as it existed in our reference version: 1.12.

@Kaivax

stats on existing items will all be set to their final 1.12 conditions.

@Bornakk

The items you earn from the PvP Rank Rewards will be the versions from patch 1.12.

[Gichigami-heartseeker]

I dunno… we’ve got the 1.12 itemization. I don’t think any set is inherently bad for PvP. In fact, I think they did a nice job overall!

[Plopss-smolderweb]

If they are indeed the phase 6 version on wowhead, then they are better than the BWL set, at least for hunter. There is no reason to kill the last boss of BWL because the blue pvp chest is better

[Hardivh-azralon]

You’ll look like a fool in about 30 minutes

[Plopss-smolderweb]

I’m at work, please let me know when I look like a fool. I would love to have the satisfaction of knowing I never have to step foot in MC again other than for domo’s leaf (and don’t even have to bother with BWL for that matter)

I would love nothing more than to be wrong. I just highly doubt blizz is going bring out what’s listed as phase 6 pvp rewards in phase 2

[Hardivh-azralon]

Honestly, I think It’s easier/faster to get Full T1 than full Blue PvP set (let’s not even get started on the PvP epic set).

My guild is not even that hardcore and I’m already at 4/8 T1 and 2/8 T2 with Rhok’delar

[Elsinora-bloodsail-buccaneers]

I don’t care if it’s better or worse; if it means I can finally get a decent set of PvP gear by PvPing I’m going to get it. Besides, the Warlock set looks badass.

[Communism-netherwind]

It’s in plain English in the blue post cant you read? Obviously blizzard is dumb releasing gear that powerful this early, it’ll create a large gap between the casual raid logger and the hardcore pvper who raids. There will be complaining about this no doubt when people are getting stomped on by unemployed pvp grinders

[Plopss-smolderweb]

Honestly, I think It’s easier/faster to get Full T1 than full Blue PvP set (let’s not even get started on the PvP epic set).

My guild is not even that hardcore and I’m already at 4/8 T1 and 2/8 T2 with Rhok’delar

Rank 10 is ez. I could get that just casually bg’ing like 2-3 hours/day. There used to be a way to queue 40man for Av with an add on, in which case you could win Av in around 12 minutes. Each win would grant like 8-10k honor depending on objectives. I am not sure if this will still be possible in classic, if it is, it will be the best way to farm honor in the game when it comes out

It’s in plain English in the blue post cant you read? Obviously blizzard is dumb releasing gear that powerful this early, it’ll create a large gap between the casual raid logger and the hardcore pvper who raids. There will be complaining about this no doubt when people are getting stomped on by unemployed pvp grinders

You don’t have to be unemployed to get rank 10 lol. You could get rank 10 just by afk’ing in av BG’s on the weekends lol

[Communism-netherwind]

BGs aren’t going to be out until minimum 4 months from now not even worth mentioning

[Plopss-smolderweb]

Ok well u still don’t have to be unemployed to get rank 10. Just go to hillsbrad and do group pvp for a few hours a day, spend your time exclusively doing that

Rank 10 is ez. Rank 12+ is where you have to no-life it

So basically, anyone can casually get a set of gear better than BWL gear by casually pvp’ing by themselves for a few hours a day. I’m all for it, o just don’t believe it will be the version released

[Hardivh-azralon]

I got rank 10 on my warlock back then. But it was already via BGs (specially AB) and my GF played my char sometimes.

Remember that we won’t have BGs for a while now, all ranking will be done via wPvP. It won’t be fast.

Meanwhile I raid 1~2 times a week, about 4 hours/week of raiding and I’m getting the purps

[Plopss-smolderweb]

I got rank 10 on my warlock back then. But it was already via BGs (specially AB) and my GF played my char sometimes.

Remember that we won’t have BGs for a while now, all ranking will be done via wPvP. It won’t be fast

I was rank 6 on my rogue like 2 weeks after honor system released just from ganking in hillsbrad

It doesn’t matter if BG’s are out or not, the amount of required honor is all relative to what other people can gain. If no one can access bg’s, then the extra honor/hour gained by doing bg’s Is technically irrelevant

[Xavus-herod]

I’m having hard time reading so basically 1.12 came before 1.5 and phase 6 I assume came from 1.9 which comes after 1.5 so that means the pvp set coming right now is the weak version not the phase 6 version?

[Plopss-smolderweb]

That’s what I believe, there’s a reason wowhead lists it as phase 6

But everyone else besides me is saying wowhead is wrong and I’m wrong, so…