I do. It is a 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000% correct idea. We’ve had nothing but our noses rubbed in the fact that we’re evil and easily manipulated by Azeroth’s most evil entity even as she betrays us right infront fo our faces, kills us infront of our faces, and permanently enslaves us right infront of our faces.
Blizzard owes us. We had no content in Legion. We have had nothing but a bad time the entire expansion of BFA.
Yes i actually see that scenario sounds interesting.
The naga attacking kultiras in full force and are being destroyed by a gigantic force and only with the help of the horde they are able to survive and in return seeing jaina’s jaw reach the floor by the surprise when she realizes that she was wrong for leaving dala that one time.
She will see that the horde saved her and kultiras.
but i bet that most horde players would rather let the naga finish the job ![:stuck_out_tongue:](https://d38bqls1q93fod.cloudfront.net/en/wow/images/emoji/twitter/stuck_out_tongue.png?v=6" ":stuck_out_tongue:")
Sylvanas just might.
Let the Alliance fight the Naga and strike SW when it is undefended.
Its sad though Alliance can never work with the Horde again. Unless we throw all thought and logic out the window.
This.
Bottom text. Read no further. Please read this, big B.
I’d like to just put an asterisk saying “We want to STRIVE to be the heroes of our story.” As a Warlock/DK/Shadow Priest roller, I’m pretty happy being the morally gray contract killer, but definitely not just a genocidal maniac or something.
Is this another “I’m upset that Sylvanas is suffering consequences for her actions” thread?
If that was true they wouldn’t be writing crap like this lol. Metzen is one of the people responsible for the WC3 Horde that we all know and love.
Honestly we did have a heroic moment without the Alliance being involved (well, they were sort of involved on the side by form of also getting to participate in the raid).
Can anyone really deny that the entire story leading up to Uldir and the raid itself was the Horde not only saving the Zandalari from G’Huun, but also saving Azeroth as well? Seems like a pretty big heroic moment to me, but we’re still treated as the badies.
Lots of I wants in this thread but little mention what they actually want see.
There is no epic way to make yourself seem like the hero as you surprise attack a city full of civilians and then kill all its occupants.
No matter what music is playing in the background.
Wow you really didn’t read the OP and completely missed their point.
Oh I did.
Hence my comment on the lack of any sort of description what they would actually look like.
Every one of these posts is by a blood elf
Please transfer to the alliance. They even gave you a blue version of high elves
The real tragedy is that the core population that blizzard is trying to write for is too busy playing Fortnite.
I’m not sure if they’re even writing for Sylvanas / Forsaken fans at this point. Writing for them would imply that Sylvanas and the Forsaken are actually doing things successfully (albeit with their own personal touch); instead, we have stuff like Darkshore and the war campaign, where we seem to fail at every turn.
I was hoping that, as warchief, she’d be making decisions that, while controversial, still have merit to them. Basically, what the Legion intro and Vol’Jin funeral cinematic hyped her up to be. Instead, she’s a foil to King Anduin, because God forbid his character go from being pristine white to eggshell in color.
It will all tie back whatever moronic, psychopathic megalomaniacal plan that revolves around Derek Proudmoores body, Lady Ashvane and…Sylvanus.
Don’t look for any subtlety or greater meaning in the story other than what you can concoct in fanfictions…this has all been planned out and locked in well in advance.
Horde identity be damned Blizzard will have their pointless war.
Then you are clearly less emotionally engaged in the game. For roleplayers in particular, it’s a gut punch.
Especially in context of the entire expansion, Nian was the last straw for a fair number of people. Atrocity after atrocity, culminating in butchering some Doctors Without Borders, eventually drove a sizeable portion of my guild to unsub, and it certainly didn’t encourage me to come back.
To be fair, the most played race on the Horde are Blood Elves. The chances of any Horde poster being a Blood Elf are like 1 in 4.
If Void Elves weren’t locked behind a rep grind in a previous expac, they would probably be the most played Alliance race too.
Hell, I could sit back and enjoy the evil train if the game wasn’t so eager to drag me to dark places and then heap on ‘guilt’ over it.
If we’re going to burn Teldrassil, let me fire the damned catapults.
Blizzard thinks Horde players are the same ones that let their own capital city be the setting of the last major raid of an expansion, where they had to rebel and kill their own Warchief, and Alliance players who do the same raid got a shiny “Conqueror of Orgrimmar” title.
Look at the Ulduar trailer in WotLK. There’s a reason why two characters, Varian and Garrosh, can start in the exact same place, with the exact same degree of bigoted, belligerent racism, but eventually over time Varian’s character evolves into a benevolent hero who truly strives to fight for peace, and Garrosh becomes a warmongering maniac who will use corrupting Old God powers to fuel his atrocities.
Blizzard will always push Horde in the mud while raising the Alliance up to be heroes because you’ve already shown you can take it before and they think you’ll willingly take it again. Yes, of course there has always been complaints about the way Garrosh was handled and the way the civil war conflict didn’t induce much faction pride. But they never saw their sub numbers drop significantly from these complaints, did they?
They would never, ever have the balls to try anything even remotely as controversial with the Alliance story, because they probably believe the Alliance side is where most of the RP and care about plot and story come from, and hitting any of their faction leaders with the villain bat may actually hurt their profits.
Why else would Jaina, one of the people spearheading the war, say she’s not going to attack Zandalar further so they have the chance to mourn the loss of their king? Her personality and motives in the past have shifted to hell and back, to the point where enough people suspected she was a Dreadlord that it became a joke skin in Heroes of the Storm. But, inevitably, she will always be redeemed and learn compassion and goodness once more, because she’s Alliance.
Genn Greymane hated Sylvanas and the Forsaken so much that he was willing to stage a pre-emptive strike against their forces against the direct orders and wishes of his king. His character was one of the only chances to present more civil unrest and inner conflict within the blue faction. But of course in the novel he learns that not all Forsaken are bad after all, and will likely completely share Anduin’s sentiments of just deposing Sylvanas, without destroying the rest of the Horde. Because Alliance.
One of the major problems, I think, was that since the end of the Wotlk, Blizzard was compelled to further push WoW with more expansion, and since Cataclysm the writing has been all over the place. Even Metzen’s writing was a bit cringing with Thrall… I won’t go further than that. Point is, ever since they decided, for some stupid reason, to turn Garrosh as a villain, and that’s where it went downhill.
Warcraft has always been about the Alliance and the Horde, but World of Warcraft’s focus wasn’t meant to be about faction wars, but rather a sandbox mmoRPG about heroes who happen to be in either faction. Activision broke that concept with BFA turns it into Wildstar with blizzard’s brand on it.
This is what we get; a stupid plot, god-like faction leaders with plot armor, and half of the playerbase being forced to be “villains” because someone in the exec thinks its a good idea.