You continue to prove my point. 
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Without mentioning all the things that are solely opinion based with zero data to back it up. Explain to me how me boosting 1 character affects your game play. It’s to 58 on non Belf/Dre toons and has zero professions with dung gear.
You can’t use the “the bots” argument as that fault lies with blizzard already, and you and I both know with their stance lately, with or without boost bots will be out of control.
Here is my stance on the pros of me boosting. With boosted character, if chose a healer or tank I would be able to tank or heal TBC dungs for you and many others. If I boost a lvl 58 I will be able to engage in pvp to help the war effort regardless of faction I choose.
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This, and yeah… Surveys.
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Boosting “ONE” character doesn’t.
It’s not just “one” boost, it’s tens if not hundreds of thousands of them.
You can already do that, without the boost.
Ok, so you say hundreds of thousands then, probably more like millions but lets begin with that. Having that many players readily available to play with you, your guild, your friends, doing dungs, doing pvp and generally interacting in OUTLAND I would see as a good thing.
Ok so I don’t do the boost or my friends in real life that only care about TBC do not use the boost. We all start leveling a new character at launch. We are all in our late 40’s and all work and have families. We do play quite a bit but not compared to the majority of wow. It would take us probably a month or so to get to Outland. After a month or more of finally reaching Outland because of being so far behind and having a harder time finding groups, how many players will be level 70 and doing Raids and arenas?
Ok so we continue on through the gank fest if we choose pvp servers as majority of the player population will begin at 60. We finally make it to 70 after another month. Now we are 2 months behind and probably begging to get into raids and getting stomped in pvp by all the out geared players , who started at 60.
Now let’s use the boost, me and my friends use our boost. We are lvl 58 at launch. We are able to get into groups as there will be an abundance available the first 2-3 weeks. This makes our lvling faster and would probably be 70 in less than 3 weeks, probably 2 weeks. We now might be behind the hardcore no lifer’s but will be right there with the majority of the player base. We will be able to do heroic dungeons, dabble in raids, and capable of handling our own in pvp.
This is how I look at it.
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There is nothing prevent those players from leveling right now. Hell, I just leveled a hunter 1-60, took about 6.5 days /played. No boosting. It’s not some insurmountable task. Just do it.
So? I don’t see the issue with that at all. Outlands isn’t going anywhere, it will still be there when you get there, what’s the rush? You’re not going to have any problems ever finding a group, even as a fury warrior or rogue or whatever “not meta fotm” class you play. I mained a Rogue in TBC and it was a wonderful experience.
There are only a handful of zones in Outlands and players will be leveling in them constantly, you will have no issue getting into a group or downing an elite quest mob or whatever. I played on a low pop server back in the day and never had issues.
What’s the rush? Why do you feel the need to get to 70 as fast as possible? Unless you’re in some speed run turbosperg world first guild, there is literally no reason. Just play the game and enjoy it.
Now if there was a stance to have every fresh TBC server to begin at level 1, no transfers and no boost, I would be ok with that.
This is the hunter I leveled. It doesn’t take that long, even if you’re a single dad working 2 jobs with 9 kids. The game isn’t going anywhere, play it when you can, level when you can.
I think that there should be a handful of servers like that, I doubt that most people would want to start over (I’d love to, for sure).
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You say that but you don’t know. Many players to include myself, were very vocal about getting classic. Not because we wanted to play classic but as a means to play TBC and Wrath. We would level now and I am finishing a toon in classic. But why must we have to endure content none of us care about and would be considered old? We all just want to play TBC content.
I have given you my pros and you give me reasons why you think boost are bad but you still have yet to explain to me how boosting is affecting you negatively. What does it actually do to hurt your gameplay?
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This is my mage I made at launch of classic. The server I choose died, can’t get grouped to save my life. Friends quit because they hated vanilla, but they do love TBC as they played with me throughout TBC and played on prvt servers. So you see how leveling would be for us. When I log on this guy I end up logging out cause I do not want to just aoe farm.
I don’t understand what you’re saying. It’s literally part of the game. Questing in The Wetlands or Barrens is as much of the game as questing in Zangarmarsh. It’s the same game, just different parts.
By that logic one could argue in the same faith that “I don’t care about raiding I just want the gear.” Which is ludicrously nonsensical. In order to progress in the game you have to play it and partake in the content of the game.
You didn’t give any “pros” of the boost. There are many threads which give many great reasons as to why/how the boost is an overall negative impact on the game. I’ve yet to find a single reason as to why the boost is a good option for the game.
“I don’t want to level” isn’t a good reason for the boost. Nor is “I don’t have the time.” Would the boost increase the number of players in Outlands sooner? Of course it would, but it’s not the only way for that to happen - just go level. You could easily level 2-3 characters to 60 before TBC comes out if you wanted too. If you wouldn’t play the game without the boost, then you shouldn’t be playing the game to begin with honestly. There are many other games out there that are worth playing, Classic wow isn’t fit for everyone these days and that is totally fine.
Check these posts if you want to see some of the negative effects the boost will have. I don’t have the mental fortitude to try and aptly cover it right now.
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Haha yeah so did my original realm (Blaumeux). Which is why I transferred and the name dropped the X and it’s on the hunter instead, which I leveled before I transferred him.
Pretty sure Bobby Kotick asked for it.
I watched the madeseason video in length and disagree with everything he said. Sadly while I respect what your saying and agree to a point. I only want to play TBC content. Do not use the “just make raid gear purchasable”. This isn’t about I don’t want to level or put in work for gear. It is about I want to enjoy a part of the game that meant something to me back in the day. Odds are without a boost I will probably not play as my friends will not play.
How would you feel if someone’s opinion about not having classic caused blizzard to pull the plug? I fought for classic to get TBC and WRATH. If you go way back in my post history long before classic launched you will even see me stating that. The anti-boosters stand point makes me feel like I am not entitled to enjoy the expansion I so loved. Why, because of the you have to level in classic, I did it, it’s easy.
I want to hear your words exactly, how me boosting a toon to 58 causes your gameplay to suffer. Don’t use other players opinions, I want to hear your opinions only on my 58 character cause the gameplay of yourself to suffer.
What reasons do you have that allows you to skip the parts you “don’t” enjoy or don’t “mean something” to you? I just don’t understand why you think that way, or why one would expect the game to change in order to suit their specific desires despite the chagrin of the greater playerbase, and the players for whom the game was made for in the first place.
“You think you do, but you don’t” applies to a lot of people, you think you want to play the game, but you don’t want to level or play the game, outside of a certain part of the game.
I much more enjoy Wrath than I did Classic, but I also loved classic. I’d be super stoked for Wrath Classic when it (inevitably) comes out. However I would not expect a boost at all, nor would I “not play” because there isn’t a boost. I’d gladly reroll on Wrath servers if they released them right now. Hell I’d delete my entire wow account if it was required to play on the Wrath servers. TBC is great also, probably tied for me with Wrath.
But most of our opinions on the matter are congruent. Why do you want me to rewrite it in my own words? If I didn’t like peanut butter and someone said “I don’t like peanut butter.” I would agree with that, I shouldn’t be required to rephrase it as “I dislike that which is known as peanut butter.” It means the same thing. I do like peanut butter, just an example.
Found it - here is one of the posts which I personally typed out in my own words, since that seems to be an important factor to you;
It not only creates an open door for degenerate gameplay that is abusive to the boost system, as well as bots getting a free pass to instantly start farming TBC content. You can have more than 1 account. 1 Boost per account won’t stop anyone who wants to make an army of transmute alts or whatever.
When you boost a character you’re removing someone from the entire game, reducing the number of people being active in Azeroth, and reducing all potential interaction in the WORLD of Warcraft, an MMORPG, which is designed around having a living breathing world.
For every person who buys a boost, that is one less person farming herbs and leveling their alchemy or selling items on the AH.
One less person farming ore and leveling their blacksmithing or engineering and supplying others with crafted items.
One less person to meet in Duskwood or Silverpine and quest with.
One less person to walk 900 miles to Blackfathom Deeps and run a dungeon with.
One less person in the game to play with.
One less person to talk to.
One less friend to make along the way.
It destroys a large social aspect of the game in addition to destroying the economic aspect as well.
That one person who got a boost will never be seen in the game by anyone in Azeroth. It’s also one less person who is participating in the game world, one less person removed from the economy and community.
When you’re getting boosted in ZF by a mage, you’re still taking part in this world. You’re still interacting with the community, and still being active in the game in order to level up and play your character.
This is only one small facet of the problems that boosts create, the entirely remove all of these things.
There are a ton of problems that a boost creates.
Not to mention that it completely destroys the spirit of the game. If you want something, you need to earn it. Put in the time and effort in order to acquire it, not swipe your credit card.
I also want to point this part out, so you don’t get hung up on it -
This is only one small facet of the problems that boosts create
You still have not said how it impacts you. I got all the other stuff your saying and respect those opinions.
Questing in Outlands, is more fluid, feels smoother, I prefer the dungs by far (cept blackrock, that best dung ever). The pvp is by far better in TBC as well as the Raids are much, much better. I don’t understand how you can’t see not every player likes classic, and even though we don’t like classic we do love TBC adn only want to play that content like we did on pvt servers. Why is this just so difficult for you to understand. Questing and leveling in the two different ers are far different. Now if Outland allowed me to lvl from 1 to 70 then I could care less about a boost.
You once again, threw in bots, mage boosts, etc, etc, etc. Me being 58 at launch in dung gear DOES NOT HURT YOU IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM, period. There are going to be bots due to blizzard not doing their job. Some say bots will get worst with boost and some say they will not use boost, I say either way if blizzard would do their best this would not be an issue.
You said it destroys social aspect. I spent 2 hours trying to get a group today and literally the only person talking in chat. Think I saw 8 players in org over 2 hours. Bringing a boost takes thousands of players directly into Outland increasing social interaction which in turn increases play participation.
Do you have the data to show that one lvl 58 boost will cause a problem. Once again dont use bots, that a blizzard issue and they will be there with or without boost.
I am one of those players who will be personally impacted by the boost.
I plan on leveling many, many more characters come TBC. I will be one of those who has a less enjoyable experience while leveling due to the boosts.
I do see that, and even addressed it;
Questing in Outlands is much smoother and better, I enjoy the dungeons as well in Outlands, however some of them are a bit to “linear” feeling and more of a corridor with mobs rather than a dungeon. Blackrock dungeons are the best dungeons ever made in any game ever, so we can definitely agree on that. BRD is probably the best dungeon ever made.
That’s like saying “I only like Disc 3 of FF7” and skipping the previous two discs because you don’t like them. My brain just doesn’t understand that and I probably never will. When I like a game, I prefer to play the whole game, and not just the bits and parts that I “would” like otherwise. If I didn’t like the whole game, I’d not play it.
There are some parts of games that I groan when I get too and speed through as quickly as I can, such as the Temple’s with the “Spheres” in them in FFX.
Yeah, that happens some times. There are a lot of dead servers, pretty much any server that isn’t High population is a ghost town these days. Took me 4 hours to get a full UBRS group for my Hunter to get my BWL/Ony attunement, but I got it done.
Bro, there is more than one boost.
The boost isn’t the Excalibur gifted to one chosen knight. Literally everyone can use them, it’s one Per account which you can make as many of as you want.
It’s not free, so I don’t think a a majority of the player base will be using multiple accounts and buying multiple boosts. Either way, I enjoyed the discussion even though we don’t agree and wish you the best. Just be glad that since there is a boost you will have at least 3-4 players to interact with soon. As my real life friends are returning because of the boost.
Yeah a lot of people seem to believe that the boost is going to be free. You as well good sir I hope you have the greatest of days and all your wildest dreams come true. (Unless it’s for boosts)
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