You completely missed the point…
I’m curious how collectively deciding to stop funding a company doesn’t work. I don’t really know or care about attempting to boycott them, but deciding to stop giving Blizzard my money is definitely an action I can take.
I’m also curious what the point of any sort of judgement is when there’s no action that can be taken.
this. they’ll come for him too eventually.
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So, the unfortunate reality is that there is no public relations incident heinous enough to get everyone on board with a boycott. There’s a large number of people who just… don’t… care about anything other than whether they enjoy playing the game. Historically speaking, boycotts don’t work. It’s a good thing to not support companies that do horrible things you don’t approve of, but it’s just not an effective method of combatting them.
So… to be clear when I said actions, I wasn’t including exercising your free speech in that. Criticizing Blizzard and making this a PR nightmare for them is a more effective method of pressuring them to change. That’s about the best we can do.
And of course, there’s also the lawsuit. Blizzard can probably take the hit, but they aren’t going to like taking the hit, which is going to pressure them to reconsider their policies on these things.
Of course, none of this FORCES them to change. But most companies will bend at least a bit under pressures like these.
There’s a difference between having a discussion about guilt and trying to whip up a hate mob to demand people get un-personed and bully people who disagree by accusing them of being rape enablers if they don’t join the hate mob.
Anyone should be free to discuss, but actively lobbying to destroy people’s livelihoods on an accusation is a terrible, terrible thing. Let the professionals comb for evidence to prove these allegations.
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Youre a bully. Blaming others for not caring enough to do what you demand. You dont get to decide or demand anything from me, or anyone else.
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Actually there have been extremely effective boycotts, especially during the civil rights era.
In modern days, boycotts tend to more affect corporate images than hurt bottom lines which means a company has to care about the attention it is getting and from whom. For example, calls of boycotts of places like Hobby Lobby fail because the people who support that business don’t care what abortion rights people want. On the other hand, due to the impact of George Floyd’s murder, many corporations used this as a chance to rid themselves of anachronistic images such as Aunt Jemima or Uncle Ben’s and get some decent virtue signalling in the process.
Boycotts can be very effective if the right target is chosen and the grievance generates a lot of publicity that is very uncomfortable to the company. So a lot of extended media glare to Blizzard to generate a lot of uncomfortable heat. On the other hand, PETAs calls against KFC are doomed to fail.
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this. just from how insufferable they are alone, i wish to be in whatever side they are not on.
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Some of us don’t make knee jerk reactions based on social media outrage. I personally want to see all the facts before I make an intelligent decision.
Honestly, this whole thing is not likely gonna see the inside of a courtroom. The lawyers on both sides will make a deal, payouts be made and NDAs signed.
I don’t recall blaming you for anything. But I guess lying would be the next step after fearmongering failed to accomplish anything meaningful. 
Your lack of self awareness is frightening. You don’t seem like a bully at all… JUST KIDDING! Totally do. lol
A fair number of those taking the position that fair work practices have led to destruction of the gaming industry want everyone to permanently leave who doesn’t support racial and sexual discrimination, unequal opportunity by race and gender, and sexual harassment. They imagine this will bring back the glory days of gaming. Spontaneously, as if by magic. Some of them are opposed to employment law on the principle and think somehow treating people badly and overworking them will make them more productive. Some of these also believe in treating other players badly in the game. So at least they’re consistently [unmentionable].
Wow, you really owned me with that sick personal attack unaccompanied by any attempt whatsoever to engage the topic at hand.
I guess you win again, crybully.
So, self awareness fail again, yeah? Cry about personal attacks (of which youve already done in previous posts.) Then finish it off with name calling. Impressive!
not everyone who is on the side of the people at the company that aren’t R are angry men who hate women and democracy. just fyi.
I feel terrible for what is going on and I do hope if true, justice is served.
With that said, if they are found not guilty I’m still going to play WoW and D4 etc.
If they are found guilty, I’m still going to play WoW and D4, etc.
I enjoy the game. That doesn’t mean I like what is going on. But did the game itself do this? No. Did a majority of the people working hard on this game do something? No. It was a handful of jackasses at Blizzard. A very low % of employees. People are running around here pushing people to quit WoW as if 99% of the Blizzard employees are guilty of this. They aren’t. Why punish them too. And get that crap out of here of how those innocent employees have a duty to quit their jobs and walk out. That has zero legs to stand on so stop it.
Ah. So we’ve gone full circle from you crying about being bullied and having no argument to calling me a crier for acknowledging the personal attack–as if there was anything else in your post for me to respond to–and having no argument… straight back to whining about name calling and having no argument.
I don’t know dude. It seems like you’re just putting on a dumb performance and wasting my time. Should I read anything else from this? :u
I mean… I’m not going to prove you wrong. I don’t know if you were expecting me to try, but I believe you.
I didn’t expect you to not believe me. That’s why I said what I did. I am not a lunatic and don’t assume everyone who doesn’t agree with me is evil. I am pro supporting the women and the others there for my own personal reasons. I’ve seen how others react who don’t share that same history. Which is why I commented the way I did. 
Edit: we all have our own reasons for things. Yours is as valid as mine.
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I believe that some of the allegations are absolutely true and the perpetrators ought to be dealt with appropriately–and they will be. I simply understand that as a neutral observer (i.e a player of the game that hasn’t been personally affected) that I have no power in the situation to do anything that wouldn’t harm the innocents in the company as well.
Sure, we can mass unsubscribe, but that accomplishes very little in the grand scheme of things aside from hurting the innocent workers at the company that did not take part in the negative activities. Many of the people that committed the acts have already left the company. The only thing we can really do to help is to use our voices to disparage the deplorable behaviour of the individuals that acted disgustingly towards their fellow workers.
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there is a big difference between vengeance and justice. as someone who has had the same type of experiences, i want justice. the twitter mob who has never dealt with this themselves, want vengeance.
i appreciate you posting what i personally consider a reasonable response.
edit: there are good and not so good intentions on every side.
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