Which class has the worst defensives in the game

All warriors think they are the main character. “When wsrrior sucks game is bad”

Lmfao.

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without any deep thought put behind it, and in a vacuum (regardless of whether we’re facing magic or physical damage): hunters and possibly demon hunters

I’m sure hunters have a damage reduction in there somewhere but I rarely see it being impactful, it’s really just deterrence and being ranged (when they’re ranged)

Even the ones in the classic WoW raids where there are 25 human warriors all wearing the same gear?

By who, warrior players? Lmao. Yeah bro WLS/Wmpal/Turbo/TSG/Kitty/Ret war are all the highest form of a meta. Everyone loves it :sob:

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The one good thing about Arms War being meta is it works with just about everything.

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I’d love to see someone say they prefer spell caster meta with a straight face

Just do PvE at that point, no difference

Meta is decided on who can pillar hump more, EPIC!

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No meta is good brother, all of them are trash. Caster meta, melee cleave meta, caster/melee meta, they are all bad.

Blizzard is bad at balancing, which means the word “meta” = “grossly overtuned”.

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I can agree with that

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I actually cannot believe that anyone, warrior players included, believe this.

Balance druid is easily the squishiest spec bar none and it’s not even remotely close.

With regards to melee, I think the only tankier melee than warrior is windwalker and even then that’s more because of the number of cds and port over the passive tankiness.

Warrior is significantly tankier and harder to kill than ret, enh, dk, dh, and feral.

When I play warrior I feel like I’m never in danger between dstance, parry, ignore pain, and impending victory.

Now granted, I think it NEEDS to be tanky because it’s basically the only melee that can actually be functionally kited to the degree that it is in this day and age. However, I don’t know anyone who would actively choose to target down a warrior over another melee unless it’s like a rot spell cleave vs a DK.

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Monk has the best defensives in the game what

Enhance is better than warrior

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warriors have better self heal than most of other classes

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Similar could have been said about Spriest.
Not a good argument, people don’t care.

I stated if we’re referring to specific specs then probably Balance

Yes those classes “take more damage” than Warrior but all of those classes have a button that make them unkillable when needed and/or can stop the pressure immediately, when the game is balanced around offensive and defensive CDs emergency buttons will always be stronger especially in SS

In the 3v3 bracket Warriors are much more defensive than most of the forum clowns here make it out to be and are definitely tankier than the classes you mentioned, if it was last patch I would have disagreed with you regarding Feral however

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I didn’t know blizzard paid such close attention to these forums.

People like to say that don’t. I personally think they at least look at it and sometimes make changes based off user feedback in combination with other factors.

I wish I had more data.

But I’ve arrived at the conclusion they watch glads and e-sports teams and make their choices from there.

The Overwatch model. Tweak things at the level of play which brings in value.

But I don’t have any evidence of this, no more so than we have evidence of them perusing forums for public opinion.

I agree with this, but I actually think the game is a LOT more balanced around pve and sustained damage than coordinated goes atm.

Oh 100%. They received, like, 11% more healing permanently from all sources prior to this patch LOL.

Also, colossus warrior got several buffs and the bigger deep wounds healing on top of ignore pain is something like an extra 10-15k hps (depending on pets) passively.

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I mean, it would be a bad idea to not listen to their playerbase and they have access to tons of information here.

I’m not saying they read everything, but with how many warrior threads we have a week they’re hard to miss.

Ignore Pain and Slam are the most feel bad buttons to press. Use rage for defense and then can’t hit anything while you wait for your rage to fill? awesome… Hit for wet noodle damage while consuming rage hoping to get a proc to use your real rotation? awesome…

In late game, 100% warlock.

Dark Pact, Cookies, Mortal coil are all impacted by Dampening.

Uneding Resolve is a 3 minute cooldown - 40% dmg reduction

We get a passive dmg reduction of 8% for a few secs when we port, but this is not gonna save us during coordinated burst.

And felhunters that just flop over.