Just want to see what people say.
warrior, mw, dk vs pure physical.
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Warrior of course.
No other class is even close to how bad warr defensives are.
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I think it’s boomy. They rely heavily on getting clones to live and that seems kinda hard atm with the lower haste values.
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Class or spec?
There are no defensives in the balance tree.
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they also have one of the best kits for kiting, but as far as defensive “cooldowns” yea, prob on the bottom end also. you’re also punished for training a boomkin, they do more dmg
Everything has bad defensives against a BM hunter, rogue, warrior, or mage.
not sure why people are acting like warriors are unstoppable killing machines, they arent lol. those %dmg buffs are bandaid fixes, still not great, need reworked, too many pvp modifiers hindering the class identity (for arms anyways) and ignore pain blows.
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Warriors aren’t in a bad spot. There’s just so many of you and all warriors do is complain until they’re S++ tier.
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theres only about 4-5 spots that are worse than warriors still… so i wouldn’t say they are good.
until all specs with 3-4 major defensives get nerfed, warriors are still not great.
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Don’t really care if it’s coming from a warrior main, no offense.
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you’re entitled to your opinion, but warriors are still about equal with enh, so enh (your main?) must be in a great spot too. And I wouldn’t come in here and say its a warr enh meta.
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I think warriors are the most biased players and nothing they ever say should be taken seriously. Again, no offense. It’s just historically true all warrior mains do is complain until they’re are gigga buffed chads.
Like, it always ends up happening. There’s so many of you warriors that blizzard has no choice than to buff you to the moon.
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historically there are more warrior’s than any other dps, and when warriors are weak, the meta feels terrible, this is highly agreed upon. Warrior makes the world go round 
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I mean, I would say I’d rather have warriors buffed over casters, but I hate you all equally.
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Moonkins. It’s not even close.
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Like mathematically worst defensive cd or defensives overall? Either way I’m p sure it’s boomy; lowest self healing in the game and only barkskin as a defensive is really bad in a world with so much other defensice bloat and passive healing.
I think every class except SP would happily trade their defensive kit for warrior’s.
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Warrior for sure, anyone saying otherwise has either played with a great healer or straight up doesn’t play the class
If we’re talking specific specs then probably Balance
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You have to i clude cc and mobility as defensives. Ie: demon hunters dont actuslly have to sit and take bursts to their face they can literally just run
Same with warrior monk amd others. So when talking defensives dont forget those
Warrior
Fury has enraged regen as their major defensive. It’s a 30% wall for 8 seconds. That’s it. The healing from BT during it is really bad and does nothing. I’ve seen furys wall around 40-50% and die through ~1second later as if the 30% DR didn’t exist.
Arms has DbTs which is slightly better but you can be disarmed and unable to use it or disarmed/stunned from behind during it for some reason…