Thinking ahead towards TBC - which casters are fun to play in PvE? Played rogue through TBC the last time around, so looking for something different.
shadow priest or warlock
just flip a coin
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Spreist will always be 1 per raid.
Warlocks do insane DPS, mages do a bit less than warlocks but are still good. Ele sham will be wanted by every caster group for their +3% hit/crit totem.
Boomkins only have the +crit% aura so they’re low end
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Ret
Arcane mage
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This one imo.
Much funner rotation too.
Locks will just spam shadowbolt.
Any Warlock that’s still only using shadowbolt when they don’t have to worry about debuff cap at all is an actual monkey. Even in current vanilla, warlocks that are able to maintain 85-90%+ uptime on corruption always out DPS warlocks that just use shadowbolt, with the only concern being the debuff slot.
That’s twice as true when every raid is going to want at least 1 Affliction Warlock and things like Shadow Embrace don’t work with just shadowbolt.
Simply not the case in TBC but feel free to keep posting bad, incorrect information.
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Yes I’ll be sure to take some retail scrub seriously that most likely never played actual TBC and got 100% of their info from some trash private server like endless… yeah I’ll get right on that.
Yep got my Hand of Adal title from retail LFR, it’s true.
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Anyone that says something as dumb as “warlocks will only be using shadowbolt in TBC” either never played TBC or never played Warlock in TBC it’s really that simple.
Not sure which one you fall under and I really really don’t care.
Only shadow bolt? No. They’ll also cast life tap, and a curse.
But destro warlocks won’t be casting corruption.
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Try reading what you actually quoted me saying since what you quoted had me referring to Vanilla? And yes a warlock in 7/21/23 spec in Vanilla that does maintain 85%+ uptime on corruption will out dps a warlock that only uses shadowbolt… in VANILLA.
I already said that each raid will have at least 1 Affliction Warlock in TBC who will be required to use actual dots for things like Shadow Embrace, so saying that warlock rotation in TBC is just “shadowbolt” is still a false statement.
try not to backpedal off that cliff
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Misquote, attribute false statements, and then accuse of trying to backpedal can you be anymore cringe?
I know that reading is so hard for your retail zoomer brain that you can’t even quote someone properly but jesus that’s just pitiful.
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In what way is a single GCD to use Corruption, especially if you have to cast while moving, a bad thing? Affliction maintains UA, Corruption, and Siphon Life - and potentially Immolate, especially if there’s a lot of movement.
I don’t know about Destruction, as they don’t have the instant Corruption, but there could be very real reasons why you might want to use it - maybe not in general rotation, but that doesn’t mean you never use it. There’s also Immolate, which while it is a cast it’s buffed by the Destruction tree already and there’s no real reason not to use it.
There’s also incinerate which relies on an active immolate being up and can actually outscale shadowbolt under the right conditions and with the right gear and Shadow Fire is a real TBC build.
I’m not sure where people actually got the idea that TBC warlock is just shadowbolt but they’re just making it obvious that they don’t know TBC warlocks.
Destro doesn’t take improved corruption so you won’t have instant corruption, it’s a 2 second cast that does less damage than shadowbolt.
but that doesn’t mean you never use it. There’s also Immolate, which while it is a cast it’s buffed by the Destruction tree already and there’s no real reason not to use it.
Shadow Destro will never use either spell except maybe precast corruption on pull so you don’t immediately pull aggro with a shadowbolt crit.
DOTs can’t crit. Destro spec is based around Ruin which makes your spells crit for more. That’s why you only cast shadow bolt.
I’m not sure where people actually got the idea that TBC warlock is just shadowbolt
Shadow Destro, which is the highest DPS Warlock spec, is just shadowbolt, the curse you are directed to cast, and life tap. Casting anything else is a DPS loss.
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Immolate crits, conflagrate crits, incinerate crits, if your argument for only using Shadowbolt as deep destro is because of ruin when Shadow Fire is an ACTUAL BUILD in TBC depending on what kind of gear you have, your entire argument is completely false.
No it’s not, pure Shadow Destro is only the highest DPS warlock spec when your itemization heavily favors +shadow damage because then it just wouldn’t make sense to go Shadow Fire if your spells are only partially benefitting from itemization.
Warlocks will start out in TBC as Affliction regardless because the gear needed to make destruction outscale it doesn’t come until later. You are pointing to a very specific point in TBC where pure Shadow Destruction outscales affliction and the itemization also heavily favors +shadow damage from gear. Shadow Fire has the highest overall DPS potential of any warlock build in TBC with the right gear, stop getting all your info from streamers and poorly scripted private servers like endless…
Yeah, that person seems to know everything. Just ignore and move on.
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