The last time a tank actually said that to me in game, it was during Mists, I was on a Demo Warlock and I had Glyph of Demon Hunting.
It didn’t end well for him.
It’s pretty much a new wave of players coming back, playing sloppily and such, but the biggest thing about it is the HORDES of Dracthyr, who cannot ever tank, and so the tanks still around have alot of newbie Lizards and others to deal with. At least thats what it seems to me. Which, by the way, is a BIG mistake, Blizzard. A new race and class that cannot tank? Thats NEVER happened before.
DKs, tank. Monks, tank. DH, tank. It was so the ques were not MURDERED at their launch. And they are now. Dracs can easily tank, hard scales, blah blah blah, wing shields, etc.
It is not ego. Dps can’t decide what the healers can handle. Dps does not know tank cds or what the tank wants to do.
Know your place “sugar” and let the tank do his job. Yours is to kill the mobs, not to pull. Got it?
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If we’re going a pace that is unnecessarily slow for no reason I’m going to put my foot on the gas.
You can’t go 30 on the highway.
It is 100% ego.
Tank is 20%. If 80% of the group says “Press W”, you press W or someone will press W for you.
My place is in the majority. If the tank can’t cut it, he can go sit in Oribos for 30 minutes.
Big man… iT dIDnT eNd WeLl. Then apparently you don’t need a tank.
Don’t be a jack wagon go tanks
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And I guess you can go look for a new one
That’s the idea lol
Exactly. I tanked it on my Warlock by hitting Metamorphosis. The tank barely kept up, didn’t get to tank anything at all.
In your hypothetical “You spank it, you tank it”, it’s the tank being the jack wagon.
LFD gives in-progress runs priority. A new tank is 30 seconds away.
This screams more of ego than the tanks.
God so many new mmo players. At this point it is got to be trolling. Dps can’t be this stupid…nevermind this is wow.
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80% of the group > 20% of the group.
That’s not ego, that’s democracy.
I’ve probably played MMOs longer than you have.
Not all roles have the same weight in said democracy.
I doubt that, Anyone who thinks tanks don’t decide what he can pull, what he can handle and what the group can handle. Is clearly new.
Welcome to mmos. This is how it is and always will be.
Why would we tolerate a subpar tank?
If a DPS just auto attacking, we kick them
If a healer is in DPS spec and not healing, we kick them.
If the tank is not pacing the dungeon appropriately, we kick them.
We all have to live up to standards. Are tanks just always blameless?
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Yes. They do.
That’s where your problem stems from : you think tanks are more important. They are not.
I mean, go ahead and let your tank pull the Hard mode boss in your +25 JY then.
I’m sure that’ll go fine. He’s the tank right ?
Maybe it’s time you actually played an MMO instead of argue about them on forums.
Honestly, I like it when a dps handles pulls for me - presuming they’re halfways competent about it. That’s just one less task on my plate.
As has been said, tanks are basically just running a dps rotation - and both have to avoid stepping on geometry. The difference is that tanks also have to mind their health, and pay attention to enemy rotations/bursts to make use of preventative mitigation CDs. Then, they also have to have situational awareness to handle things like boss adds and dps stealing aggro. They also share a burden with healers, that they can’t afford to seriously screw up. Nobody notices when a dps facerolls their rotation to achieve abysmal dps. If the tank drops aggro or doesn’t have their mitigation up at a crucial time - everybody has a bad time.
On top of it all - and this is most important of all when it comes to newcomers and leveling - they need to know where they are going in a dungeon. Other roles have a much much easier time going in blind, so it’s just easier to have healing or dps as your first spec.
So long as tanking entails three times as much work and stress as everybody else - they are going to be by far the hardest role to find enough players for. So yeah, some of them can be divas. What are you going to do about it, wait for another tank?
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DPS are the only ones foolish enough to think this. Sorry, but the people who tank matter way more than the dime a dozen dps in this game.
So you are saying in certain cases this is the normal? Are you next going to say hunters pulling with freezing trap is the “standard” now?
I mean teaching players like yourself is a full time job, it is cutting into my mmo time. Lucky for me, I’m playing a mud game as well. So that fills a void while I teach you.
It doesn’t.
Tanks have massively simplified dps rotations. A lot of things you said : dps have to mind too. Their own health and defensives, swapping mobs if they pull aggro to stop the threat hemorraging, bringing adds they have aggro on to the tank. On top of maintaining usually a much higher complexity rotation and always thinking about their cooldown usage.
Tanks are fairly simple to play. You can take a swirlie without really thinking about it where it would just gib the dps, you can move the mobs with you, so you’re never having to react to someone else’s movement.
No, I’m a dps (and a tank) and I don’t think tanks are more important.
I’m saying the tank isn’t perfect nor should he be assumed to be.,
Honey, you can’t teach me anything about this game. Look at my achievements, I don’t hide my profile.
DPS are the worst to lead the pace though, because healers might be sweating behind their backs keeping them alive. Only a healer can tell a tank to pull more.
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Sweetie wow is so pay to win now. Your achievements don’t even matter. Using achievements like it is something worth having when players can use gold to earn most of what you have.
Next thing you are going to tell me is. “Look at my logs” like that matters as well. rolls eyes
It makes no sense for DPS to pull for tanks, You don’t know what said tank can handle, the CDS they have, or how the healing is playing. The tank could see said healer having trouble with spike damage. Tons of things go on with tanking.
Glad I could help. Now this is all common sense basic stuff mmo players know.
Doing something for a long time doesn’t mean you’re good at it. Lotta people have played wow since vanilla and are still trash.
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