No, imprisoning the princess of a entire nation for seeking aid and no other reason is more then just that. One person gives you a gift, the other kidnaps your family and threatens to kill them. But nice attempt.
And successfully uniting all Trolls under one banner when peace negotiations were still being made… yes… you succeeded alright… in absolutely the opposite thing they wanted to achieve, but keep telling yourself otherwise.
Nope, response to aggression, I mean, you are literally arguing that murdering people and civilians is fine as long as you were aggressed against, right? Well, the Alliance did so against Zandalar before Zandalar was even allied with the Horde or even made contact with the Horde, thusly, when applying your logic, all your arguments are invalid. Good talk.
Varian Wrynn, Broll Bearmantle, Valeeria Sanguinar, and Bloodeye Redfist, were all slaves owned by Rehgar Earthfury. The Horde openly practices slavery,
No, because you are a hypocrite and bring no arguments, might as well bash my skull against the wall for all the 'NO! YOU’s I would hear from you with no evidence except for small strings of dialogue which says absolutely nothing.
You have failed to refute any argument I have brought up. My arguments are not non-arguments… Our discussions are, because you are incapable of arguing with me.
Zandalari attacks in Catacylsm Horde and Alliance work to stop them Zandalari attacks in Pandaria, raising Lei Shen Actively warring Horde and Alliance work together to stop them Alliance captures Zandalari princess on the way to negotiate with the Horde, who had just committed genocide against them, alongsideTHE GUY WHO ORCHESTRATED THOSE FIRST TWO THINGS
Zandalar: How could the Alliance do this!?
You know how Nathanos is constantly spouting “WE NEED THAT ZANDALARI FLEET!!” Now that Zandalari fleet is gone. Regardless of whether or not their allegiance is with the Horde, that is a resource the Horde had worked towards for the entirety of BfA up to this point. THAT is a successful attack on Dazar’alor, even if the main objective was not accomplished. Sure, they’re united now. But significantly weaker in the face of Rastakhan’s death.
That’s not what I’m arguing, but interesting interpretation.
Please see the above montage of Zandalar’s history with the Alliance and Horde.
I envisioned you tipping a fedora IRL when you typed this. You really are the worst kind of person, aren’t you?
I notice you’re neglecting to counter her point on slavery, or mine. You’re just throwing around personal insult like a pissbaby. Could it be that you’ve been caught, and you’d rather pitch a tantrum than admit it?
I don’t understand why we couldn’t just sail into the harbor, aim some catapults from a couple miles away, and “burn it.” I mean, if Sylvanas can burn a living tree that’s surrounded by water, surely we could have scorched Dazar’alor right down to bare rock with the same methods and saved a lot of trouble.
… how has she trolled and/or spammed? You’re the one posting crap like “blablabla.” YOU’RE the one spamming now. Do you wanna get your own thread 404’d?
So I guess what Zul did represents all Zandalari? So what garithos did represents all humans? What Kil’jaeden did represents all Draenei, I could go on baby.
Oh by the way: How did the Alliance know that she was going to the Horde? Did they magically hack into her GPS system or something? Or was that just another assumption on your part?
Let us just say: Stormwind nearly fell against ONE troll tribe, just one. Welp, you just now united all troll tribes by dumping onto their most holiest site.
That is literally what you said, no backpeddling now.
Please see above montage.
I don’t own a fedora, I don’t own hats in general, but nice strawman.
No, I don’t, I just refuse to talk to her. Period, she lost that right. Anyhow, as for Slavery, so what? Serfs are no better, and the Alliance has those, let us not forget your new allies the Dark Irons enslave people just as well.
Given that they did all those things under the name of the Zandalari Empire, there was nothing to suggest otherwise. Your other two actions are in terms of a race and not an empire - KJ doubly so given that he literally spouted off about the Legion every eight seconds - so it’s most certainly not comparable.
Probably the same way the Horde knew.
In the past. When the Alliance was weaker and bereft of the resources and allegiances it bears today. In that time, the troll tribes have been growing weaker and weaker, with tribes such as the Drakkari and Shadowtooth going extinct entirely. An entirely unified troll tribe is not the threat you’re making it out to be.
Show me where I said it.
Scratching your neckbeard then, whatever, you’re missing the point.
Why? Because she dared to disagree with you? Are you afraid you’ll see something you don’t like?
Somehow she’ll manage.
… so slavery is a-ok in your book. Alright, moving forward.
Serfs have no proof of being enslaved, they’re just lower class workmen.
In the current day, no. Previously, under imprisonment and jurisdiction of Ragnaros, yes. If you’d like to hold the sins of those Dark Irons against the Alliance, then we get to hold the sins of organizations such as the Shadow Council or Iron Horde against you.
Garithos was a racist a-hole, but he didn’t really do anything that would be comparable to the Horde and/or Zandalari in this instance. So this point is irrelevant.
Man’ari…. Draenei are specifically those who fled KJ, Arcimond and their Eredar follower followers (Again, Man’ari). Again, your point fails.
It doesn’t matter. Blizzard has told us that is why the Alliance arrested her, and they were correct in their reasoning. Not to mention that Zul is a War Criminal.
Most of the Troll Tribes have been decimated by adventurers at this point. They don’t really have anything left.