That’s a Horde War machine the Alliance captures.
Two points to be made. The Forsaken would still be a useful tool. A 1 man army is limited, even if that 1 man is immortal.
second point, Sylvanas might just abandon the Forsaken once she is Immortal. We can’t assume she wouldn’t…
So, in both cases you are wrong.
Everything I have said has been factual.
Yes… cause total destruction = capture, you are stretching so hard, I am surprised your arms aren’t popped out of their socket yet.
Again, all you do is present headcanons. Nothing factual.
…. What? No, we actually capture it in our version of Arathi.
Literally everything I have said is factual.
I did that WQ it literally is destroyed and it says nowhere that we capture it. Unless they recently changed it, you are just making things up.
Nothing you said is factual: SHE WOULD; SHE WOULD SHE WOULD SHE WOULD! Present the evidence where she states this, otherwise as said: Headcanon.
Oh I am sorry do you mean the ones who are attacking the alliance raid. Merchants who use their Dino as a weapon. Those merchants who took up arms and joined the fight?
Says the guy who has literally been making everything up this entire thread.
“Arrows in my quiver” is evidence.
Once that Dino dies, they have no weapons and are essentially useless (non-epic mobs), so your argument falls flat. And those other merchants I mentioned where the Dark Iron slaughter them are literally hiding in their huts using make-shift weapons to keep hounds and elementals away. Sorry that they don’t kneel down and allow your soldiers to slit their throats.
Everything I said was factual, you are the one making stuff up. Do the WQ again and screenshot where it is said that you claim a broken Azerite Warmachine, seeing how the two machines look NOTHING alike.
I guess ‘The Zandalari deserve this!’ Is enough evidence to prove that Genn is a racist and a murdering psychopath then.
I only did the alliance raid portion the merchants take up arms
Hmmm do they? I thought I remember them attacking with fists… which unless they are trained monks is not a efficient weapon, if they do, then fine the Alliance side was justified… to a extent, you also have to look at what sort of arms, if it is a mere butcher knife to keep invaders away, that still is not justified. But I suggest you make a Horde alt, hope into a quick LFR, it literally happens right at the start.
It’s not though. The Zandalari aided the Horde in striking Kul Tiras as an ally, not a formal member of the Horde. Nothing about what you’re putting forth says “we have never helped the Horde fight the Alliance before this.”
And in turn, the Horde would have taken Stromgarde, likely serving as a staging point to retake Lordaeron - probably resulting in sweeping through and taking Light’s Hope by flanking it on both sides with Silvermoon, seeing as the Silver Hand sides Alliance now.
Not only that, but those “neutral trolls” - which, as I’ve mentioned, were not neutral whatsoever given that they were actively attacking the now Alliance nation of Kul Tiras - would likely rally with the Horde troops and take the undefended continent.
We’d gain Darkshore back, but we’d end up losing on all other fronts.
Again, I have yet to do the raid, so I can’t attest to this, but I’m inclined to believe you’re exaggerating for the sake of your agenda.
Your whole argument seems to be based around the delusion that the Zandalari haven’t lifted a finger against the Alliance for the Horde. There is copious evidence against this falsity.
Oh look, something nonfactual that you’ve said again.
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The Zandalari have been aiding the Horde in a War against the Alliance. The Alliance and Horde were not at war when Sylvanas invaded Ashenvale.
Case closed, good talk.
Then they become combatants and take part in the fight. They lose civilian protection.
Also interment camps were justiable necessity. Granted abuse did happen, in the end it was really the only logical solution to the problem.
Why? Again, why? Rastakhan is obviously not allied with the Horde at this point, he has given them access to Zandalar for saving his daughter, beyond that, nothing. Rastakhan never sent forces to aid a war if they are not allies. The highest argument you can bring is that the Zandalari responded to constant invasions from the Alliance into their territories, at most.
No, if he had kept enough forces to hold Stromgarde and simply diverted the soldiers he used on the stupid attempt on Dazar’alor… you know… those that were sent to die, it would have been a success.
Then do it.
My argument revolves around the fact claiming that the Zandalari are somehow to blame for wanting to join the Horde over the Alliance, when… what has the Alliance done to foster good will to the Zandalari? Oh yes… NOTHING!
Yep, case closed, you are a proven hypocrite, so your arguments are typical non-arguments, you state lies and headcanons and expect me to believe them, sorry hunny. Not going to happen, run along.
Not for children, who were abused, soldiers, fine. Whatever, but children did nothing in this war and were just as mistreated as the adults. You could have just as easily stuck them in orphanages to be raised in a human fashion, if they thought the Orcs to be mindless savages.
Not really a good idea. Humans hate Orcs. I can’t see it working out well. Take thrall for instance. Didn’t get the best childhood.
Not Thrall’s fault, obviously another racist human doing racist things. Perhaps other humans would have reacted better, still racist but definetly better then raising them to fight for your entertainment.
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no u
My arguments are supported by the lore while yours is speculative and anecdotal.
Truths
Lore supported facts
Yes.
Have fun being wrong.
I love how orcs call humans racist when they actively practice slavery…
Blablabla more lies and headcanons, not going to argue with a hypocrite, go hug a tree.
God, you really are the worst kind of person, aren’t you?
I’m not interested in discussing the version of the story you seem to have concocted. We SEE Zandalari forces in the War Campaign and the Invasions, so clearly the Zandalari are aiding the war campaign. Rastakhan’s empire obviously IS allied with the Horde at this point (after three zones, numerous campaigns, and a full raid of the Horde aiding their kingdom), just not formally called the Horde. You can be an ally of a nation and aid them in their wars without being a part of the organization itself. Much like the Dark Irons were not formally inducted into the Alliance until BfA, yet were staunch allies and contributors to their war efforts preceding that.
No, the highest argument I can bring is the physical presence of Zandalari forces in the invasions, which you have elected to ignore on behalf of a weak headcanon. We have no way of knowing what order the invasions took place in, or if they took place before the attack on Anglepoint Wharf for example, so that’s inconsequential.
I would argue that wiping out the Golden Fleet as a way of preventing the Horde from using it made it quite a successful attempt on Dazar’alor, but for that to have credibility, you’d have to believe the Zandalari were allied with the Horde. Which you don’t, so it’d be like telling it to a brick wall.
So the absence of goodwill on the Alliance’s part means that their attacks on them on behalf of the Horde is justified? That’s like if one guy gave me a gift, and I shot another in the head because he didn’t.
God, you really are the worst kind of person, aren’t you? You should go check out the Spiketooth questline in Durotar. Fun stuff.