Then show me those screenshots, not screenshots that are conveniently hiding the evidence that you claim to be incriminating.
Further more, it doesn’t even look like the Dark Irons are even fighting them. Securing them for their own safety and the safety of your fellow soldiers is the standard thing to do here.
Source?
So they were pushing them aside and out of the combat zone where they were less likely to get hurt? How horrible.
You know, that would make sense if those elementals and corehounds would stop attacking the ones who are already coralled into their stalls… which they don’t. And it would make sense if there weren’t dead civilians already strewn about. Or the fact that the Alliance let loose a mindless beast into a residential area.
I am quoting another poster from the other thread. And seeing how you are a mob-mentality type of gal: Two people claim it is true, so it is true. But seeing how I am not one of those people, I will go look it up:
These elementals are powerful, unpredictable and violent. The summoning and controlling of molten giants is forbidden by the [Earthen Ring], as the use of such coercion could anger the elements and trigger an event similar to the [Cataclysm]. WoWpedia
Summoning and controlling is forbidden by the Earthen Ring. The crime itself isn’t the summoning itself, but it’s the controlling of elementals. Dark Shamanism is when you force them against their will. We don’t know if this was Dark Shamanism, or simply Dark Irons communing with the Giants, and bargaining for their aid. Considering there was no mention of Dark Shamanism, we can assume that it wasn’t Dark Shamanism.
Also, there was no adverse affects to the surrounding land. Which supports that it wasn’t Dark Shamanism.
Hehe, you have activated my trap card:
However, during the attack on [Theramore Isle], [Garrosh Hellscream] ordered his [dark shaman] to force molten giants into battle
Is the sentence right after the last one I posted. So, summoning and forcing them to obey you is dark shamanism.
Also remember what it said in the first post about Molten Giants: These elementals are powerful, unpredictable and violent.
…. That’s what I just said…
… But we don’t know if they were forced or not. Try reading my above post again. Slower this time…
I read it, and as said, Molten Giants are uncontrollable, they are unpredictable and violent. Thusly, forcing them to obey you is dark shamanism. Or else they DIDN’T control them and let them rampage freely through a residential area. Which do you prefer?
Source?..
VIOLENT AND UNPREDICTABLE! What don’t you understand about that?
That doesn’t say uncontrollable.
That is exactly what it means, if something is not predictable then controlling it will be nigh impossible. But as I said, either they control it to a willing degree, allowing the Molten Giants to lash out with their violent tendencies, which would inevitably put civilians in harms way or they controlled them to BLOCK civilians which would mean they imposed their will on it and committed Dark Shamanism, so… which side of the coin do you prefer?
No, it means violent and unpredictable. Worgen are violent and unpredictable. Orcs are violent and unpredictable. Most predatory animals are violent and unpredictable.
Uncontrollable is another matter entirely.
Perhaps that’s why the Dark Irons were corralling civilians into safer areas.
With more of these violent elementals and corehounds? You are seriously stretching here.
Fire elementals are controllable, and Core Hounds can serve as Mounts, making them controllable as well. So yes, it is entirely possible the Dark Irons were using them to make sure the Zandalari civilians weren’t put into harms way.
And how do you eplain the dead civilians? Why were they blocking a exit route for Civilians in the first place with a violent fire-elemental? When we first get to that place it is used as a place for civilians to escape, why would the Dark Iron BLOCK that road if they didn’t want civilians to get hurt? It makes no sense.
This video?
The version I’m seeing is showing the Alliance version of the fight, and Talanji isn’t there when the Zandalari encounter Jaina.
I was corrected that it wasn’t Talanji, but Jaina still sounds mocking about the dead when she addresses the captain.
Civilians who fought back, which we actually see.
Because they are restraining the civilians, not letting them run into a battle. The Fire Elemental could be under control of the Dark Iron Shaman and mages. So, you can’t say they are violent. Considering they are not attacking the Civilians that they are restraining, then we can assume they are not violent, or at least under control.
They want Civilians to stay there, not run into battle.
By the way, this is me assuming you are telling the truth about what you have seen. Which, considering your track record, and the lack of evidence, is probably a lie.
Against Fire-elementals and corehounds, that is like slapping at a fire with a stick. Or more easily: A child slapping you with a pillow. Seeing how the Dark Iron are heavily armed and armored. A untrained civilian is no threat to them. And having been part of the military, it is common to not exagerate force when dealing with civilians. Just because a civilian tries to kick me does not give me the right to shoot them in the face.
The exit OUT of Dazar’alor blocks them from going into battle… really? That is the excuse you are going with?
And I told you multiple times, don’t believe me? Go do LFR Horde-side for yourself. Or heck, don’t do the Alliance LFR and watch Gelbin unleash a mad beast who cannot even tell friend from foe anymore into a residential area.