Hey, who knows perhaps those Night Elf civilians on the tree were armed and ready to fight back the Horde before they noticed their tree was in flames and started running around. I can do that too.
Letting them go is a kindness. Past that, not the Alliance’s concern or responsibility.
They weren’t. It was made clear and repeated that they were unarmed and unwilling to fight.
So, burning a building and blocking all exits except for one which leads into a cage filled with hungry lions is not murder? Gottcha.
I stand corrected. Link to the post with the actual link next time.
Where? Nowhere, all we have is one Night Elf saying that there are civilians in that tree, she never states that they are unarmed or unwilling to fight.
I linked to the thread, my bad then.
Literally, explicitly said several times.
I was legitimately debating with you this entire time and you go and toss out that. Even my attempts at levity were met with ‘reported for spam’. You’re not interested in discussion at all, you just want to hit people with a wall of constantly obtuse language until they either leave or get annoyed enough to make a mistake you can jump on.
Nope, she just says to Sylvanas that there are only Civilians on the tree, she never said they were unarmed.
All the exits led to “hungry lions,” and as I recall, many survived said lions.
I was not tossing that to you, but to Akiyass, I do not blame you for Akiyass using fallacies, so please do not blame me for addressing Akiyass as she deserves, thank you.
The words she used are “Innocents”
Tyrande herself said “Make the occupation as comfortable as possible”
All available, healthy fighters were consolidated in Darkshore to fight the Horde. Teldrassil did not have anyone armed or willing to fight because those that were would have been in Darkshore.
It is explicitly said several times.
Stop lying.
Nope, nowhere does it say ‘unarmed’, Innocents could mean many things, and perhaps in her eyes they were. And that could have been code for ‘let us make sure that they receive hell when they get up in our tree.’
I find it hilarious that you don’t realize that I obviously don’t mean that seriously, I am just pointing out how far you are stretching to justify the murder of civilians.
According to the article I have read on wowpedia, General Hawthrone did order Wildhammer mercenaries to firebomb the camp and it is not known whether their bombing runs started before or after the civilians had left.
The article does mention that Baine acknowledged that Taurajo was a military target since they were training warriors and hunters there. I still see the potential for Alliance atrocities to be committed there.
The Horde and the Alliance are both equally capable of committing acts of evil.
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Baine’s words cannot be taken seriously, seeing how the Alliance could bomb his home city and he would still excuse it and banish everyone who wants vengeance for it.
Go back and watch an Alliance side playthrough.
Speculative on your part, and objectively not true, because Alliance side, we rally and draft all available fighters on Teldrassil to fight in Darkshore.
So we KNOW for a FACT that Teldrassil had no means of defending itself from the Horde.
And even if it did, the extermination of the entire population is not even close to what happened in Dazar’alor. So your point is wrong on both accounts.
Congratulations, you are wrong squared.
slaps forehead I am done, you are obviously not getting what I mean. Here let me do it in all caps, maybe that’ll help you:
I KNOW WHAT I SAID IS WRONG! I AM ARGUING THE WAY YOU ARE ARGUING TO JUSTIFY THE MURDER OF ZANDALARI CIVLIANS.
We got 'em, bois.
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And you fail to realize the difference between someone who is actively combating, vs someone who isn’t.
On one hand, you have a Zandalari actively trying to kill Alliance troops. In that moment, the Alliance troops have a right to defend themselves.
On the other hand, you have a Night Elf, awaiting what they believe to be an occupation by Horde forces… Only to be burned alive.
See the difference?
They are not comparable, at all.
And I pointed out several times, that these troops are not out in the open, they are inside, you only see it from the back, but behind that shopper are 2 more trolls unarmed who cannot leave because behind them is a stone wall, over them is a over hand and sorounding them are walls, they CANNOT leave! Because the only path they have is forward through hostiles who have already killed civilians, if you look you see civilians scattered on the ground, killed by the Dark Iron. Along with Molten Giants, which, the very summoning of those are considered Dark Shamanism and they are uncontrollable, thusly they attack whatever gets in their way, you just see it battling one of the dinos in this instance. You are blaming civilians for fighting against elementals who are pressuring them into stalls with no escape except through the hostiles who have already murdered civilians.