Where is the outrage for Dazar'alor?

Yeah, and they apparently seem to ignore those orders, seeing how the Dark Iron (on Horde-side of the raid, before the first boss) are cornering civilians into their huts with fire-elemental and corehouds.

Seriously? Why? If I obviously want to report him that means I don’t want any part in his ploy to sabotage our war OR killing Horde soldiers… damn it Blizz!

So you are telling me only one of those Horde leaders is not influenced by Blizz’s dumb writing? I see.

Many races have legitimate issues to hate the Alliance and want them dead: Trolls, the slaughter on the Echo Isles. Goblins, the unprovoked attack on a Bildgewater ship filled with civilians. Orcs, Internment Camps. Tauren, Taurajo (even if Bainduin Bloodwrynn is a Alliance character and would betray anyone who legitimately wants vengeance and would exile them). To name a few.

I dont see why we even raided Dazzar Alor at least for the present moment. Shouldve just had Jaina and the tidesages drown Orgrimmar.

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That would have made too much sense… SHH! Blizz is allergic to common sense!

Doesn’t matter, it is still a distinction. Just like the Red and White army of the Soviet revolution.

Before that.

No it isn’t, seeing how ALL Night Elves supported this system at first and were literally licking Azshara’s dainty feet.

Doesn’t matter as it has nothing to do with the reason why they DECIDED to remain behind, NOT to save people, but because they saw it as their duty to go down with the proverbial ship.

Not true… the Kaldorei mostly lived either as surfs, or on mount Hyal worshiping Wild Gods. The Kaldorei didn’t really worship Azshara, or the Arcane. In fact, it was a major cultureal difference.

Yes it does, because that’s when you see the children being evacuated.

Don’t bother trying to reason with an NPC. You’d have more luck trying to discuss philosophy with a hamster.

No, it isn’t, most worshipped Azshara as some sort of divine beauty and powerful ruler, why shouldn’t they? She has wrested control away from the trolls and built a empire that would last the ages.

Are we trying to debate the same poit here? I am pointing out WHY the sisterhood remained, not if they evacuated children.

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Highborne did, not Kaldorei…. this is my specialty man, you will not win this lol.

…. Then what is your point?

No because here you like to distinguish between castes when in other instinces caste doesn’t matter. Zul and his loyalists did all of the bad stuff. Just like the Highborne (Who back then were still Kaldorei) were responsible for the Legion, the Shattering and spawning one of the most evil creatures to ever exist. So if all Zandalari are responsible for what Zul did, then all Kaldorei are responsible for what Azshara and her Highborne did because back then they belonged to the same race.

A point that wasn’t even addressed to you, a point that the Sisterhood is all but extinct now and that there were no Ancients of Lore to aid in the taking of the highly fortified and blighted beach of Darkshore. I suggest you read the entire talk I had with the other Night Elf.

I think both factions are pretty bad when comes to dealing with each other. There is no real standardized law of war for both factions to follow so the retaliations get pretty out of hand we shouldnt have burnt down teld but on the same side of the coin the alliance shouldn’t have attacked zandalar. If anything they should have attacked durotar from the sea after they destroyed the golden fleet but it’s as understandable as when the horde attacked darkshore(before they burnt teld) laying seige to an isolated enemy is a far more appealing prospect then going head on with the bulk of the enemies army.

Why do you keep doing this? If you think they’re breaking the rules, just report them silently and move on. Announcing to everyone that you’re reporting someone looks like a sad intimidation tactic.

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I do that to her and everyone who supports her, because she did the same to me, if they think it is annoying, good. Because it shows just how annoying they are.

This makes a lot of sense, it is consistent and does not paint one as morally superior to the other, both have done bad stuff, which is understandable and to some extent justifiable, though in a real world scenario both instances would be plain and simple evil.

De didn’t say that…

Mostly because Blizzard very rarely differentiates different castes that are present within a society. They very intentionally did so to show the massive cultural differences between Highborne and Kaldorei, even at the time when Azshara ruled. Despite all the bad things, Zul still served as Rastakhan and Talanji’s advisor. There is no differentiation on cultural or social caste there, it is the same caste. Where as the Highborne and Kaldorei are entirely separate on religious, spiritual, and political goals and ideals.

Well that is not true, because most Priestesses travel with the army.

There was at least one.

And the powers of the Night Warrior safeguard Kaldorei from blight and undeath.

Killing Malfurion wasn’t in the original plan. That’s something Sylvanas came up with to smack Saurfang with after the fact, and as an excuse for burning the tree.

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Interesting. I’ve never heard or seen that anywhere before. Where did you?

Just read A Good War. We literally SEE the plan she laid out with Saurfang, and there’s nothing in it about killing Malfurion. In fact, Malfurion is one of the opposing forces who’s supposed to be keeping the Alliance in a political stalemate after they occupy Teldrassil.

Sylvanas’s eyes disappeared beneath the edge of her hood. “They lost their nation years ago. The Gilneans will be furious if the Alliance acts to help the kaldorei first,” she said. “The boy in Stormwind will have a political crisis on his hands. He is smart, but he is not experienced. What happens when Genn Greymane, Malfurion Stormrage, and Tyrande Whisperwind all demand differing actions?

Now, you could argue that Sylvanas has a secret, Malfurion-killing plan that we never see on-page until she starts yelling at Saurfang for letting Mal live, but in that case you’re outright admitting she’s an unreliable narrator and every word out of her mouth is suspect.

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Sylvanas and Saurfang were trying to kill Malfurion nonstop the entire war. Until right at the end when Saurfang decided it would be a great time to commit “Suicide by Tyrande” instead of following through on HIS OWN PLAN.

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They were fighting him because he was the military leader on-site, which could have been anyone. That doesn’t make him the focus of the plan, or the entire lynchpin on which the plan rested. There was nothing in the plan we saw that involved killing Malfurion as a primary goal until Sylvanas suddenly started yelling about how killing Malfurion was the entire point of the plan. And if the plan we saw was different from the actual plan, we’re right back in unreliable narrator territory (or, more likely, inconsistent Blizzard writing territory).

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