I very much doubt they’re giving any credence to the one user who’s reporting everyone in his thread. They’d probably wanna check out the behavior of the one guy everyone else is reporting tho. But again, some of us are bigger than that.
I am noticing a distinct lack of your Night Elf ally… I wonder if she was silenced again…
Tree’s are not built to burn easily. They burn quick in extreme conditions. A tree that massive, with magic defenders and it’s OWN magical power, with the well of eternity’s water sitting on it’s moonwells, could send the catapult (who could not hit that far, unless Orcish catapults can do anything because ORC HYPE) shots into the water or as i said, beat the fire down. There is a lot about Teldrassil that could empower it’s defenders: not to mention the Wild Gods who should want to intervene when the Orcs attack one of the furbolg tribes recovering from the demons taint on their people, a town full of innocents, and the Ancients.
Edit: Nevermind that said Tree Beings were ALL ancient protectors. No ancients of War, no ancients of Lore: ancient protectors throwing STONES. In the cata darkshore questline they can blow up buildings with their magic, its how Shatterspear Vale was destroyed.
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Or maybe, like I did, she stepped away from the keyboard for a bit because there’s other things in life.
Continue raging and headcanoning.
Yeah, I agree with you there, with the whole Wild Gods thing, which is why I hated the whole Darkshore Warfront: A d-day style attack on a heavily fortified and blighted beach? Most Alliance attackers would have died before they reach Bashal’Aran, it would have made more sense for Cenarius and the Wild Gods to stampede into Darkshore from Moonglade and the Warfront starts from there.
Reported.
You’re a meme.
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Ancients of Lore are supposed to have seriously powerful natural magic. They, and the Sisterhood of Elune, should just be able to cleave through blight
(I mention the Sisterhood beause Elune has a lot more power than pre-patch would have u think, such as an item just from a Moonwell in a Dragonblight quest that could just sear away necromatic magics and taint)
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Isn’t that Sisterhood all but dead now, since all of them refused to leave Teldrassil? Also, there were no ancients in the initial attack, we save a few that were being blighted and killed after we make landing on Darkshore.
No, they almost all died. Because the ones who fled (noncombatants and children) were forced out into hostile Quilboar territory, where most were caught and eaten.
You can argue that this was unintentional, though, which would make it more of a manslaughter than a murder situation.
That said, I still think Taurajo was a legitimate military target.
Night Elves are not responsible for that. The Highborne are. Who are now naga. 5)3 Night selves defeated the Burning Legion 3 times. You’re welcome.
Because the Priestess’s evacuated the children. The Horde fully intended to occupy Teldrassil. Tyrande told Saurfang to make the occupation as comfortable as possible. The lore explicitly told us hagglers was no fight to be had on Teldrassil. Your headcannon be damned.
For f-sake, read the novellas…
Still here pig-face.
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Back then, there was no distinction, they were all Night Elves, the distinctions only came later. We can also talk about Fandral and a few others. So no.
No, when there was no more evacuation to be done, when the tree around them was too burning to go out, they refused to leave the tree. Yeah, we intended to occupy Teldrassil, until Saurfang neglected to do what we intended to do in the first place: Kill Malfurion, with him alive, occupying Teldrassil would have been impossible because Malfurion and Tyrande could have easily staged a rebellion.
I don’t have to, I saw the clip, were there any Horde Soldiers up on that burning tree? No, there weren’t. So there were no Horde Soldiers up there that those civilians could have surrendered to.
Reported.
You’re a meme.
Pig face is a racial slur used against orcs. Not a direct attack at you. So, you cant report me. Sad though, I was hoping you got banned.
There was a distinction. They were different Social classes.
Do the quest again on Alliance.
I think people are overlooking one of the key reasons Taurajo is brought up so often.
It invokes emotion.
One of the biggest complains I have seen about Dazar’Alor is that it is unsatisfying for the Alliance. It doesn’t scratch that itch. There are two points draw from that. One, they aren’t really emotionally invested in attacking the Zandalari even if there is some military gain from it. Two, they are emotionally invested in attacking the Horde.
When you have seen Horde players complain about motivation or want the Alliance to do evil things that is what it is about. Horde players want to feel emotionally invested in attacking the Alliance. In the absence of that, when they are being forced to fight the Alliance anyway, they will seek to find things they can use to justify and create that emotional sense of anger even if the reasons are threadbare.
Taurajo is one of the few things that even comes close to a bone that Blizzard has thrown the Hordes way when it comes to emotional investment so it gets latched on to and held in a deathgrip.
It is the same reason people want to kill Jaina. Suddenly she becomes a face they can treat as an antagonist. If the Horde have no one on the Alliance’s side they can see as an antagonist it makes it difficult to see the Alliance as the ‘bad guy’ which is what you want in an enemy. The enemy they fight suddenly has a ‘villainous’ face and they demonise the target further in the attempt to make her fill the role of a representation of their enemy.
I have said in the past this is a two sided problem and neither side has it good. Horde are never given a reason to get invested so the payoff feels bland even if it is dramatic while Alliance get amped up but don’t get a payoff that satisfies.
Its like the Horde gets banquets but never gets given a reason to be hungry while the Alliance gets famished but the food they get isn’t enough to satisfy their hunger. Anyone who genuinely feels the other side gets a better deal simply doesn’t understand this basic dynamic.
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Exactly, reported.
Social Castes does not make them a different race.
I did, you get knocked out by the smoke, outside the temple is a hell of fire and smoke, you cannot go out and evacuate anyone anymore, Genn evacuates with his wife (i think it was) and the Priestesses decide to remain behind AFTER YOU the HERO were unable to evacuate anyone anymore because of the heat and smoke.
I don’t know about you, but seeing those Dark Iron cornering civilians into their huts and trying to kill them and Gelbin going on how the Alliance now owns Dazar’alor evokes enough emotion for me to justify this war and keep fighting.
I might be more incline to agree if the Alliance wasn’t operating under specific orders to minimize civilian casualties. That said, I am glad that the raid will provide you with emotional investment. You probably will be disappointed then that you will actually be killing Horde soldiers in 8.15 as our little civil war story starts to take shape. Oh and apparently helping out Brann in Uldir too.
Frankly I am starting to suspect we will be seeing less and less of our players attacking the Alliance from this point on.
Here is the thing, what the High King orders doesn’t matter anymore if his soldiers refuse to obey.
Thankfully I can choose to report Bainduin Bloodwrynn to Sylvanas instead of aiding him in destroying everything we worked for since 8.0.
Probably, which bothers me, the Horde have just as much reason to hate the Alliance, but the Alliance are always hyped up, it is starting to get really annoying.
Thankfully with 8.1.5 I can finally roll a Zandalari and that means I have all the justification I want for wanting vengeance against the Alliance.
seriously brann is going to give quest to horde players?
so blizzard did it again… that sucks.
considering that brann was happy to murder trolls in our war campaign.
It is from some of those soldiers that we learn it is the orders.
Oh you can report him but you will still be helping kill those Horde members and return Derek to Jaina.
Well I would get used to it. We have N’zoth on the move and the horde turning on itself so I wouldn’t hold out hope at this point. Literally only one of the Leaders actually fully supported Sylvanas’s actions against Baine and two of our most recent racial leader recruits are having second thoughts about their membership of the Horde.
As for the Zandalari, that might do it but again, I think if you were wanting that payoff, the chance as passed now. We needed it two patches ago. Getting vengeful retroactively doesn’t really work.
Well it is PTR but it seems to be the case. You get Magni has you travel with Brann to get MOTHER to move from Uldir to the Chamber of the Heart to search for a way to heal Azeroth since current efforts don’t seem to be making any progress.