So, let us pretend this is real, what about the attack on Silithus, wasn’t that justified? I mean, the Horde were gathering a powerful weapon, they should not be trusted with it. Alliance does the same and all is hunky dori?
Humans don’t look good enough in the Sentinel armor. Standards must be kept.
We need a warfront involving Dwarves/Worgen and Blood Elves.
That would be wonderful.
I don’t want to see that… I would like to see individual races maintain their cultural identity, rather than being homogenized into Human or orc culture.
Nope. The fact remains that the Alliance did not go to war with the Horde over the events on Ashran.
The same can be said for Silithus and Stormheim. The Horde did not go to War over those events.
You can find justification for either side on the above (albeit Alliance justification is quite weak considering how old the events of Ashran are), as well as other unsaid events (Anduin flooding Orgrimmar with spies, as another example), but the fact remains the War started when Sylvanas decided to start it. Up until then the two were essentially in a state of Cold War.
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The Alliance had surveyors there checking it out, the goblins then attacked them, which in turn led to SI:7. This is in Before the Storm, iirc. Alliance didn’t even have a concept of Azerite as a superweapon until the War of Thorns when the Horde used it, and then later via the war machine at Lordaeron.
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There was no attack in Silithus. The Kaldorei army went to Silithus because the Horde was marching South with an Army. It was a reactionary military maneuver that the Horde used to feign their invasion.
Correct me if I’m incorrect, but is the intel Renzik swipes in Undercity the plans for their Azerite war machine?
It’s implied to be such, yes. Though it’s left deliberately vague.
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I think he’s talking about the Post-Argus events in Silithus that had Alliance players killing Goblins to acquire samples of Azerite. I think that qualifies as an, ‘attack,’ but that is my opinion. As has been pointed out, the Goblins did attack the initial team sent by the Alliance to survey the damage.
Sylvanas in the Good War, states that Genn would start this war he is the reason this war started. If he had been made to pay, it wouldn’t have happened. One sec, I can also quote the Good War novel:
“The boy in Stormwind will not start a war tomorrow,” Saurfang said.
Her eyebrows lowered. "With Genn Greymane in his ear? We will see. "
That was a concern, Saurfang had to concede. In the thick of fighting against the Burning Legion, Greymane had launched a mission to kill Sylvanas. It had gotten some of Stormwind’s few remaining airships destroyed.
There were whispers that Greymane had ordered the attack without Anduin’s permission, but as far as Saurfang knew, Greymane had not been punished. The implications of that were troubling, and every possible explanation led to the same conclusion: the old Worgen would always drive the Alliance toward war against the Horde.
But of course, people just quote what they see justifies their argument. She literally quotes Genn’s attack as a reason to start this war.
She quotes that Genn is dangerous, and Saurfang thinks of Stormheim. She doesn’t directly cite the attack as the reason.
Why do you think she quotes Saurfang? I give you one guess.
She gives it as a reason for the Horde to start the war.
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Can you guys just tell him he is right and move on?
Its obvious he will never be convinced.
So why try?
And in Before the Storm, Genn’s warmongering is very decidedly curbed when he sees the interacts between the Forsaken and their human families, to say nothing of his interactions with Faol.
A pre-emptive strike against a force that has obviously been attacking you since you became Warchief, yeah, sorry that she isn’t falling over her feet to make peace.
Why would anyone be outraged about Dazar’alor? They’re just Trolls. It’s not like they are PEOPLE.
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And yet, he is just as vicious and racist in Dazar’alor, claiming the Zandalari are responsible for what Bwonsamdi did. So no, he didn’t change, he still thinks that everyone of the Horde should die.
Yeah, once Genn - the most violent and warmongering member the Alliance has, and probably the closest they had to a villain - admitted that not all Forsaken - the people that burned his home, killed his people, and murdered his son - were bad, all inklings of “Alliance is just as bad as the Horde” were shot in the head.