It starts to look that way.
Would… Not did. She is speculating.
He did not start the War, he is the reason why Sylvanas started the war.
Sylvanas started the war, not Genn.
Had the Alliance punished Genn for his treason, then it would never happened, but fine, I concede, the Horde started this war, the Alliance provoked it.
What are you referring to, exactly? Because that dialogue explicitly is stated to be unreliable and from the PoV of either faction.
If it’s the added raid dialogue Genn has with Rast, that is.
Haha, yeah no.
They betray Sylvanas’s horde. Not the Horde.
Yeah, treason, do I need to go quote a dictionary for you?
They betray the Horde to help the Alliance, this is not like what Vol’jin did, gathering up the leaders to fight, this is Saurfang and Baine literally aiding the Alliance against the Horde.
Oh, my sweet summer child.
I know the definition of treason. This ain’t it, chief.
To maintain the Hordes honor
No, the Horde provoked it… by invading…
You can’t blame the Alliance for the Horde’s paranoia.
Let’s not pretend this is true. Sylvanas in, Before the Storm, makes it very clear she’s wanted to destroy the Alliance for some time now. She has that nice little chat with Nathanos that confirms her target is Stormwind.
If Genn had never attacked Sylvanas (and assuming the Burning Legion didn’t claim victory due to us losing a powerful ally from that), then she would have come up for some other justification to convince Saurfang to back her up decision to go to War with the Alliance. It could’ve been the death of Goblins in Silithus. It could’ve been the spies flooding Orgrimmar. It could’ve been Calia’s actions in trying to convince Forsaken to defect to the Alliance.
Sylvanas has wanted this War for a long time, and she didn’t need any justification to make that decision herself, she just needed something to make the other Horde leaders agree to support the War.
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Apparently you don’t, go ahead, tell me the definition of treason then. I would think, but that is just a hunch: disobeying the order of your king and causing a interfactional incident in the process
counts as treason.
So… destroying the Horde is for the Hordes honor? Flawless logic.
No, Stormheim happened first, thusly the Alliance provoked the Horde first, sorry sweetheart.
And Ashran happened before that…
No one knows who struck first there, so it doesn’t count.
Is it any different than what doom hammer did, or vol’jin did before.
Yes we do, the Horde struck first. The Alliance was searching for an Artifact, and the Horde attacked fearing that the artifact was a weapon.
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A artifact which could have been used as a weapon against them (same reason why the Alliance attacks the Goblins in Silithus.)
Wait are you one of the garrosh loyalist posters?
Nope, Garrosh was a racist, but I do support his attack on the Alliance outpost of Theramore. If that is what you are referring to.
This dialogue?