Out of all the classes. Dont priests deserve one too? Why would blizzard look at a nobodys feedback thread of changes they dont agree with. Talent choices for holy dont make sense. Poh very underwhelming. Disc is suffering with the rapture removal and mindbender changes. Shadow is getting nothing. And worst of all, there class tree is absolute garbage. Mages got blue post after blue post and changes weekly. Hunters have a feedback thread, and you just want to ignore a class that has not gotten a single crumb of words from a dev, or community manager. Like what is going on.
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Trust me, you don’t want the kind of changes they keep making to Arcane; believe me when I say, they are really bad.
But I agree with you, it’s bizarre we didn’t get a blue post for Priest feedback.
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Sorry, but i disagree. If im gunna spam renew now, 100k healing over 18 seconds, id at least like to know why.
I can tell you why, because Renew like many HoT’s in this game are criminally undertuned.
I like that they do want to have a Renew based playstyle for Holy as I’ve always liked the spell but they need to give it a fat buff and have the talents for it be less spaced out in the tree.
(Just clarifying, I’ve been both an Arcane and Holy player for 10 years now)
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Generally a feedback thread accompanies changes, when they get pushed to PTR for the first time that cycle.
its been two weeks since ptr. and hunters had there feedback thread during december for undermined.
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Lol you act like priests are singled out. They only have official feedback posts for Druids and Hunters this PTR cycle. I wouldn’t count on any other classes at this point.
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as a MM hunter, I kind of wish we were getting the Priest treatment as well.
Even with all of the talents, Renew doesn’t heal that much
Only time that Renew was viable for Holy Priest is when we had a tier set that gave you free Holy Word procs.
Every Holy main loved it, they are so close To bri ging it back
It didn’t get you to ever cast Renew though, last time we did that was WoD.
Uping the post, since there’s none feedback priest oficial thread.
Aditionaly.
Removing rapture is a big mistake, oracle depends on it a lot and ramping in a raid w/o it as a Vweaver is horrible too, spamming renew with out ToT clearing some PW:Shield is also horrible.
Also, an interrupt would be cool being the only spec w/o it is trash
Better cleanse profile, magic and disease is not enuf, and disease is not common debuff and we need to lose 2 points to get it.
We need a overhaul on class tree, a lot of talents are near useless and a lot of them doesn’t increase much on gameplay, I could say if PI wasn’t in the tree, shadow would get nearly nothing on classe tree.
And BTW, if disc priest has that many CD buttons, make a choice node between Rapture and maybe ultimate penance, or a new and better CD, something like spirit shell could work in the current healing environmental.
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Right!!?! They absolutely rekt warriors then bounced. Major class gameplay changes should accompany a feedback thread at a bare minimum.
It’s because priest was ignored during DF alpha and beta, the only communication given was PW:GFY, and Blizzard phoned in two minor updates to the class in 10.1 and 10.2 (minor changes to shadow and disc) without addressing any of the alpha and beta feedback, then went into TWW giving the class no changes at all.
Priest isn’t alone this patch, but no other class has their DF beta class tree. No other class still averages 9 2-point nodes per tree. No other class has gotten a blue post dedicated to giving a giant middle finger to it followed by years of silence. No other class routinely has its unique abilities nerfed or removed only to show up on other classes more powerful than the priest version. No other class class has numerous unique disadvantages shared by no other classes. No other class has only one unique strength that’s so toxic to the game that Blizzard nerfs it by 45% and reworks numerous unrelated classes specifically to make it less toxic when most players hate the ability and would rather it be removed entirely.
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Blizzard class tuning reminds me of the episode of south park when stan goes to the goverment and they all make decisions by cutting s chicken head off and seeing where it lands. Brewmaster is broken, prot warrior is broken, disc priest is gutted, holy is horrible, both demon hunters are bad but all we get is crickets
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Don’t expect anything. They are deleting any threads pointing out their lack of work. Unless you’re a mage, don’t expect anything this patch.
They moved your post to GD? 
AKA “where posts go to be ignored”
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Love how they are responding to prot warrios but refuse to even acknowledge our concerns
It isn’t a refusal, it is very likely that they just lack the time to get to everything. I have no idea how their class design teams are set up, but every single ptr/beta cycle we go through it feels like there are a few specs that get almost no attention and that really shouldn’t be the case, so maybe there is disorganization happening there too but obviously I’m not sure, just feels that way.
I do find it a little frustrating that we finally have a lot of work being done on classes/specs, more so than ever before (starting in DF) and we have devs communicating a lot more than in the past too, but now they have way less time to actually work on these things from patch to patch due to their release cadence. Its way too fast and I think thats the issue. Imagine having only 2-3 months of PTR to get all of the m+ work, raid work, pvp work, tuning work and class design work done? Its actually insane to think about, not to mention people leaving the company or moving up or onto other teams leaving positions open during testing cycles (which is what happened to a few healers in DF beta). I think leadership or corporate or whoever is pushing content to be released way too fast, they can’t keep up with this cadence.
Think about it this way, in the past we had far more months of waiting in between each major patch, and we were getting less typically especially on the class/spec rework end, that almost never happened. Now we are getting so much more, and they are putting a lot more effort into spec reworks and such, but now they have far less time in between each patch. The amount of work they do went way up and the amount of time they have to do it went way down, its really unfortunate.
I cant speak on any solutions but personally I dont feel we are getting much value with having two small patches in between the big ones, maybe that can get cut down to 1 medium patch in between two big ones and then PTR can release sooner for the big 0.x patch so players have more time to give feedback and devs have more time to react to that feedback while also getting to more specs/classes and other things.
I hope they plan to do something about class and spec balance
according to this post
https://wowmeta.com/wow/rankings/raid/dps-tier-list
The max DPS difference between shadow priest and Elemental Shaman is 42.60%
It’s almost 20% for mean DPS.
A 42%+ difference in DPS is unacceptable.