Nope, which is why introducing merc mode won’t do what everyone claims either. The Horde is more popular by the bleeding edge basement warriors, and then all the other people following them just trail along behind in a giant globluar mass.
Then because the majority of better than average PVPers are on one side, more flock there simply because they’ll lose less, and it snowballs.
Simply because there is a tiny difference in the faction’s capabilities, becomes a massive imbalance.
Not having the populations split. But having the races have imbalanced capabilities.
Take away racials and provide H->A transfers, and you’ll see far more take it rather than saying “I’ll keep my racials and let someone else flip to provide me meat for the grinder”.
I don’t want mercenary. I want Horde vs Horde.
Mercenary give salty players a reason to throw a game for the opposite faction.
Salty players will always do what they can to ruin the game for other players.
I play alliance since ever I do have horde alts on retail as today but because the system and somewhat the lore peaked curiosity in me but after that I’ve never get into horde seriously.
Personally? I think they did dirty to the alliance since EMFH legion back in 7.03 the addition of horde mode on retail was the last nail. I prefer a 49/51 that I can see not a 99/1 or 20/80, this is dev’s that couldnt balance the game and on classic they won’t be able to unless they start making changes. I would like to see no racials at all but at this point I doubt much would change because people would bring “I’m too invested on horde to change”
I do think racials will play a big impact on classic servers until legion disabling them after wotlk would be interesting to see but I doubt it.
Anyway went on a bit of OT with my on thoughts here… but yeah it’s not gonna look pretty the more classic servers they release from now on if left untouched.
It seems less like “Horde vs Horde” and more like “I don’t care who my opponent is as long as I have one”.
But if ‘everyone’ has the same abilities, why keep them active if that’s causing issues. H->A transfers won’t work because people will want to have their cake and eat it, and expect everyone else to transfer.
Yep and against player that are tring to play the game. Not AFK cause pve carebears.
It will happen here tho because we are now all meta gamers.
We use tides for our talents.
We use guides for enchants/consumes and rotation.
We use guides to pick the best race for our class.
We use guides for boss starts.
So if anything will give us an edge we will use it and horde racials are better in pvp and pve.
What we hear when anyone defends these long queues that are gate-keeping casual PvP content is the truly delusional individual.
Saying reroll, or go to retail, or these are the consequences to your actions for rolling horde etc is the most moronic thing ever.
sure if you want to live in that echo chamber so be it… but don’t blame others for your own mistakes.
Don’t remember which of the seemingly 100s of thread, but I brought up an example in BFA where the Alliance directly benefited.
During BFA essences like Blood of the Enemy required quite an honor farm. Alliance got more honor than Horde due to them being outnumbered. Combine both of those things and merc mode, the try hard Horde players mercd to get more honor to get their essences.
Even after essences were over, many horde still merced because Alliance got significantly more honor.
And you know how some Alliance players liked to blame Horde players whenever they lost since merc mode, how they blamed Horde for sucking or being afk? Nothing could be further from the truth, because the Alliance retail already had rampant afk players and many who gave up very early.
I see why people dislike merc mode, but to deny it had some direct benefits is lying to yourself. I remember going on long lost streaks beach’s higher ranked Mythic raiders and PvPers Merced just to get their essences faster. But of course this will be buried because it doesn’t fit the narrative some want to spread.
quoting one of the worst expansions and not bringing up SL current pvp to backup the argument is a bit lame.
I play Alliance and dislike merc mode bg’s. I haven’t been doing bg’s since BFA (mainly because I don’t play retail anymore but also because of mercs).
Have you seen retail? Horde have literally everything going for them except for good looking cities. Alliance retail is probably 90% rp’ers and causal minded people at this point. Merc mode is not good for the Alliance.
This is the underlying issue. People either aren’t honest enough to admit it, or they aren’t clever enough to understand it.
The issue is that people generally value the reward from an activity over the activity. They want the gear, but the PvP doesn’t matter.
In order to achieve their rewards, these same people went horde in order to min/max their pvp.
There were way too many other people who don’t actually care about pvp and view it simply as a means to an end. Most of them went horde, resulting in slightly longer than normal bg queues relative to about 75% of queue times in classic.
Tl;dr
Y’all don’t care about pvp. You just wanted to EZ mode your way to gear, and are now upset that so many others share this mindset resulting in queues.
The classic versions have turned into a meta slave game. Every guide in the world says go horde for pvp racials. 80% of horde player base is a meta slave… the other 20% actually enjoy the lore and what not.
You stupid…
Tell all those afk alliance in towns showing off their purpz to queue up. The real reason there is a problem is one faction are full of carebears. Blizzard can’t fix that.
Yeah, or to dominate a rogue-heavy meta with a broken racial.
“We” hear as if so many people didnt just play both factions at this point…
The real reason is that too many people went horde for pvp bc racials.
None of you are playing horde to pvp with your friends as so many have claimed, because horde premades are pretty much non existent.
Because so many people wanted baby mode pvp.
You are so dumb it’s not even funny. Open your eyes and you will see all those afk alliance in cities.
None of us are playing with friends? Yet, my whole alliance guild switched over. Horde premades are non-existent because of the long queues.
2021 horde racials arent that op.
Merc mode is clearly intended to allow players from the majority pvp faction to have shorter queues.
The benefit to the minority faction is that you have more players interested in actual pvp joining your ranks for things like AV where you can’t easily premade. It also provides a stable influx of players interested in pvp to help fill out rosters for players in solo queue.
The way Alliance currently works, your best players tend to only do premades (still). That leaves a lot of less talented pvpers in your solo queue. Merc mode increases the talent pool for the solo queue crowd on the Alliance side making for more competitive games…oh wait, that’s a bad thing for you guys since you really just want them fast. I forgot. Scratch that last one off.
Ultimately though, Merc mode isn’t going to do anything to reduce the number of alliance players. Alliance faction is already viewed as the pve faction and looking at the number of players on pve servers, that is supported by population skew. Ultimately, what will kill alliance is a lack of interest in the pve content available. If the content isn’t interesting, they won’t stay in the game. Merc mode isn’t going to impact that decision making process because BGs aren’t considered a primary focus for most of Alliance players. It really is that simple.
Future patches, we are talking a different ballgame because the pve content starts to really crater in Cata and beyond. But for TBC / Wrath? I don’t think it will be an issue.
Note: I don’t personally care whether they add Merc mode. I am simply pointing out that glossing over the fact that comparing Merc mode in retail to how it would work with the TBC Classic population is very much apples to oranges.