When we say “mercenary mode”, you hear

Whatever that current alliance bogey man is

The fact is that the Alliance side is just fine, racial traits are fine population is fine. We cant help it if you dont engage in BG’s or arenas and frankly the Schadenfreude shown by nearly all the alliance players hear about the egregious wait times for BG that horde has shows that for at least the most part on these forums that the Alliance cannot be seen as anything other then bad actors who dont care about the over all health of the game

Merc Mode will never harm a single Alliance player and there is no direct eivdence from Blizzards data that showed this at all.

And dspite this claim

This shows the reality

Alliance poster hear clearly are taking pleasure in al this and so the natural question is, now that we know that the Alliance players who claim to have the ‘good’ of the game at heart clearly dont. Why on earth would you expect good faith from the Horde Faction when you clearly are not showing it yourselves

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Both sides have nitwits, but the alliance side seems to have more active and useless troll posters on the forums.

Sucks that PvP players are stuck with such long queues, but the alliance has always been notorious with refusing to participate in PvP, been that way for about fifteen years.

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4 quotes from a single person taken out of context is just not enough to say that all alliance players are bad faith actors.

I’ve found that a lot of alliance players are actually being very helpful and non-biased. They might offer solutions that you dislike, but that doesn’t mean they’re arguing in bad faith.

The reality is we all play this game. We all really just want what’s best for the game.

Excuse me, I’m willing to accept

  • God awful population disparties in the open world and in pvp communities because I chose alliance.
  • 5:1 faction ratios because I chose alliance on a horde populated pvp realm.
  • In WotLK, all of the fotm trash on horde side to INSTANTLY cure themselves of their undead sickness and become human again.
  • To have MY queues and my wintergrasp entry blocked by a congaline of people LIKE YOU who reroll from fotm horde to fotm alliance in WotLK.

You on the other hand don’t want to accept the very few drawbacks of choosing horde in TBC. And by “very few” I mean only one small drawback involving picking up a few pieces of honor gear through battlegrounds and that’s it. There’s a reason why fotm trash is considered fotm trash.

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Im not wiling to accept anything from you

You’ve been enjoying the problems that Horde players have been suffering through. To be candid you ARE one of the bad actors here and while im willing to negotiate talking to someone like you is non productive

More example of the ‘community spirit’ from Alliance players

You should thier yours and youve gone to great lengths t o take as much pleasure from althis as you possibly can ,thats fine its a free country

But expecting people to take you seriously as some sort of unbiased arbiter is ridiculous.

The game needs merc mode pure and simple.

I’ll take ownership of those quotes. Horde aren’t looking to help, they aren’t looking to make the game a better experience for all, they are only looking for EXTREMELY SHORT TERM SOLUTIONS TO THEIR EXTREMELY SHORT TERM PROBLEM.

And all the temper tantrums and screeching and sheer hypocrisy through their historical actions will shine through whatever bi-partisan thoughts you would think this has.

No merc mode. Horde are suggesting things to get rid of the remaining alliance population on pvp servers, responding to them with anything else than sheer contempt is naive at best.

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I know trolls can’t read, but try.

We accept way more consequences for choosing alliance in tbc than you do by choosing horde in tbc. That’s why so many alliance are telling you to suck it up.

There were so many threads during phase 2 alliance that you literally couldn’t see anything else on the forums. You “accepted” that like a bullet to the brain.

Everyone negotiates only out of self-interest, and that includes you. Pretending like you’re only being a moron because horde are self-interested is as hypocritical as anything you claim of any horde. On what Earth do you think horde should be inclined to give a crap about your interests?

This is not good faith as we are being to do for you that you are not willing to do for us.

We didnt start this we asked for Merc Mode and then people like you trolled the very idea and showed yourself to be purely alliance minded not game minded. so while we are being asked to act in ‘good faith’ why should we when you clearly are not doing that yoursef?

Its like this right now regarding BGs.

Now think of it this way…BGs are maybe 4-5% of this game. The phase 2 nonsense existed when bgs didn’t exist, so the world pvp disrupted more than 80% of the game.

More bad faith

Why should we act like the good guys and just ‘accept our fate’ with responses like this from Alliance players?

I cant see any reason why.

What are you talking about? I’m horde replying to an alliance you stupid turd. Read things you reply to.

But I guess that just more proves my point; everybody on both sides acts out of self-interest. Pretending it’s “bad faith” is nonsensical hypocriticism.

#FixedInRetail

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Another example of bad faith.

I’m a little sad I didn’t make the list.

  1. This is a Classic version meaning that the features presented at this time didn’t include MERC mode and they shouldn’t include it.
  2. BG Queue problems existed from WoW’s inception, it’s why Alliance has had near instant queue times since forever. Horde players are PvP oriented as the PvP community is largely grouped onto that one faction.
  3. Blizzard has made no real fix to the faction problems over the course of 10+years and it shouldn’t be a fix where one faction can simply disregard the other in terms Honor based combat. I’d consider the Arena environment to be the first MERC mode equivalent of Blizzard not fixing factions but, rather giving a faction exclusivity in PvP domination as well as the ability to acquire high rated gear without having to deal with population disparity.
  4. Phase2 during Vanilla were filled with Alliance players complaining about being ganked and destroyed in hugely populated PvP servers that were 3:1 in favor of Horde. The Horde was response was mixed between “Lawl get owned”, “Suck it up”, “Move to carebear server”, and “Nothing you can do about it.”.

Bad faith is asking for Retail features in Classic.

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Oh, is that what it is? So “Bad faith” means “things I don’t personally want”?

Because you saw this coming Phase 1 of Classic WoW. I am assuming your Troll Mage is from Classic because of the gear, so I assume you knew very well YEARS before TBC launch how it would be. Classic was bad, but Blood Elves would make it worse. Literally everyone interested in TBC knew that. You had years to remedy this situation. You didn’t.

And I myself leveled a BE Paladin to 70. I thought I didn’t care but turns out its just as awful as I expected. So you know what I did? Rerolled back. Come on over, there is plenty of space on the ally from all the people who quit from being camped and losing every single BG.

NOPE, we hear why be alliance, you dont get to win open world, you dont get to win having the most people to find groups, you dont get to win on economy (more listings, more buyers) you dont get to win in BGs. But hey, we can queue whenever we want, thats our one win. Why should you get EVERYTHING? Why should blizzard change the game so you can get EVERYTHING you ever want? Why be alliance, lets all race change to horde so we can all zug together then?

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