Nah it’s a reasonable take even in your context. Install a cd tracker and put legsweep on it. Once the monk starts rolling towards you or legsweep is up move your pet. It’s not that hard you’re just bad and making excuses.
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Does WW actually need nerfs? It feels like they are pretty easy to kill and have some good counters, especially with hpal/pres as two of the meta healers right now (in 3s). Their damage is wild that is definitely true, but idk I don’t really feel bad when going against them, they are beatable at least.
disagree
i’m not a prevoker expert but it seems like having to play the entire game in incap range and having to charge to an ally to do your big healing would be bad into ww
probably never same as rogues
Nope that is exactly right. 20% reduction now 30%.
I cant sit here and claim to be an expert honestly, but pres does so much healing and has a lot of damage output that it seems to do well into ww, but depends on the comp.
You can also disagree with me thats fine, I could be wrong. I’ve played into a few at 2.3k mmr and it wasn’t as bad as vsing say boomy pre nerfs, but then again i’m an hpal its probably easier for me. I’d be curious to know what other healers think. You’re also way more experienced than me so I could definitely be wrong, is it just their damage that feels insane or do they feel hard to kill for certain specs? They have felt killable to me but i’ve played sub rogue/bdruid as my 3s comp mostly so far so idk.
I am always running tranq darts against mages now as all hunter specs. It’s too strong to pass up. Even if you don’t get alter with tranq, you still reduce it by 4s which completely screws them over. It feels impossible to lose to any mage comp except RMP.
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Yep. Pretty rare I wouldn’t take it against mages. Do agree it’s very good. Given all the holy palis, pretty much a must. =/
They aren’t getting targeted much. Playing with a sub rogue, we have been able to shut them down pretty quickly, but other then that, I’m usually hitting another target.
youre ignoring the dampen harm and karma buffs buddy.
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dampen harm was 20% minimum damage reduction now it is 30%. And if you are beating into karma you deserve to lose “buddy”.
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The point is WW were dying through karma prior. Try to keep up.
The same abundance of holy paladins also results in a higher occurrence of karma doing nothing when the hpal just bops it off. Like that’s what I’m talking about with ww and marks being the same class. It can just destroy some things but it also gets completely countered vs others situationally.
I play a WW I know exactly how they work. No one continues to attack through karma anymore so when I said “they take 10% less damage during defensives than before” I assumed that two people with literally 1000s of SS played would know that. I will dumb down my response next time so it is easier to understand.
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Are you so confident? What rating is ur ww
Good teams recognize when they can go through and when it’s a waste
Just started it again last week so only 1800s right now
RSK is hitting pretty hard ngl, but if they’re taking me down then I want to take the other op specs down with me. Mages (all 3 specs) need massive mobility/CC nerfs, boomies still need nerfs (nerf cyclone), SPs still need nerfs, Sub have been needing nerfs for months now, Rets need burst nerfs, HPals need big nerfs, MM need burst nerfs, Enh need burst nerfs (up their sustain to compensate). Augs are still annoying to deal with.
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No man. Not sure if you’re trolling or not. The original statement was they buffed WW defensives and you dismissed that. Last I checked, karma was a part of their defensive tool kit.
That’s the point. Before WW was dying through karma. Now they aren’t.
Do you understand that’s a buff to their defensives?
Not arguing with you. Good luck.
Okay troll.
fairly sure karma returns dmg in nature dmg, 70% is also a lot of dmg and if ur incel teammate in SS keeps dmging into it ur dead lol