i know there will be a requirement but anyone know?
Assuming 5000+ for normal modes.
5500+ for Heroic.
These will go down if/when they begin to add the buff that makes things easier.
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5k+ for normal is about where it was back in original Wrath, and with the ICC heroics and Gammas that’ll be super easy to hit
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What people said here, with 5k you should be fine.
However, seeing how elitist wrath is currently, expect it to be like 5.5k to even enter the raid
im sure it will be pug raids will want everyone to be 7,500gs (i know its impossible to get that high before the loot from there is already equip’d)
I find it funny when people want people more geared than what the gear that drops from said dungeon/raid ahah
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Try higher.
5k is 232 only. 5.2 at least. Tanks would need to be even higher. 5k prot warrior (I have one) gets absolutely CLAPPED in TOGC10.
And in today’s day and age, it’s not about GS. It;s about pretty colored numbers on a 3rd party website.
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Tanks are probably the exception and need to be a little higher I can give you that.
But 5k gs will easily beat everything ICC normal modes have to offer except The Lich King himself, who I do not see many pugs killing week 1.
6.2k + Light of Dawn achieve for a 4/12 25N.
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5400-ish would be my guess
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232 is 100% good enough for a tank in ICC. But even then you can get some 245 items in no time. The dodge nerf is a hit for sure, but until around PP or BPC is when you dont need anything more. You should be going from 10m ToC to 10m ICC or else the game isnt balanced properly.
I wouldn’t be surprised if a pug raid demands that.
5.4k would be my guess though, but depends mostly on which role/class/spec you’re running.
Don’t let these doomsayers scare you. Like a couple have mentioned Normal will most likely be 5k-5.2k and heroic will be 5.5k-5.8k.
If they add the buff the normal bar will probably drop to 4.8k-5k once it’s at 30%.
The heroic bar will probably move up to 5.8k-6k for H LK as the phase progresses, but very few groups will be clearing him on release with the current difficulty available on the PTR.
Don’t know why people say if, its definitely coming but likely not for a month or more.
I’ve lost all faith in Blizzard with the no post nerf Ulduar/addition of H+. Until they announce it I’ll use if, but it is very highly likely we will see it.
Was going to say this. Everything they did pointed to there being a post nerf version until there wasn’t.
Boneheaded move btw.
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Ulduar is a weird one, but I don’t see them not adding it since it’s entirely optional.
I could see them adding an extra gear piece if you don’t use it though.
232 = 5000 gs
245 = 5400 gs
I’d guess 5400~ or so is what pugs will settle at, you can get this by farming alot of heroics
I’m sure heroic groups either won’t exist or they’ll require some insane number initially
I think full heroic groups won’t happen at the start, but you will see piecemeal groups targeting easier heroic bosses and setting it to normal for the hard ones.
I was not getting clapped at 5k. Not even close.
Yeah, ICC10N is pretty easy for the most part, and even the worst pugs that have no idea what they’re doing, should be able to clear 4/12.