In that spot, no. But across the rest of the planet, it was said to be flourishing.
I never said the Light was perfect. I said there’s three sides to the story. And we’re missing a lot of it to know what to defend.
You seem to be mistaking me for defending Yrel. I’m merely giving the other perspective. And also pointing out that we don’t have all of the facts.
The small band of Mag’har could be bat crazy. The Draenei could be too. We don’t know.
Yes. I gave a very clear play by play of the scenario
With the help of an overgrown salt shaker… why was he helping us again?
Me thinks so too…
I apparently missed this as well, where was this brought up beyond “your hatred is destroying the land” or something like that?
Can we get their to do anything though? If I remember from the Mag’thar quest the portals are closed and required some kind of super voo-dee-doo to open.
That’s how you kill Azeroth and AU Draenor
To be fair, Goregrond was overrun with Botani and the Everbloom the first time we were there. Orcs clear-cutting the invasive, parasitic plants would be perfectly justified, but would seem like ‘harm to the land’ to worshipers of the Light (who see it as embodying all things).
Even MU Draenor (Outland) purged those plants: keep in mind that Goregrond became Netherstorm when the planet went pop and–save a few eco-domes–the flora were wiped out.
The AU Mag’har scenario DID have the disturbing presence of Naaru casting time magic to ‘stop’ aggression. Some might interpret that as the Light ‘halting’ a reality it no longer recognizes as truth (and have explained it as such on these very forums). However, like much of what has been discussed here such is only a hypothesis; as far as I’m aware we’ve never seen the Naaru fight directly before… it’s possible they treat all acts against them as ‘deviation from the truth’ and consequently halt them.
I doubt we’ll ever confront the Lightbound. At some point, we’ll see more about the light and void and they will likely become a/the center focus.
Not too long after we see Xe’ra, the prime naaru, essentially forcing herself onto Illidan, they throw this scenario in as well. To argue that “we only get one side” is fine and all, but when Blizz will likely never give us the other side, I think it’s safe to assume that what we see in the scenario is likely the truth.
“Their naaru masters compelled them to spread their influence amongst the orcs” - sounds just like Xe’ra actions.
The orcs even speak of the time after Archimonde was defeated and how the orcs & draenei had good years. These orcs are not like our orcs. There is no horde vs. alliance and there was no orcs vs. draenei. Our orcs were at peace with draenei until they began slaughtering draenei under the influence of the legion. But that didn’t happen in AU.
I think the whole “we only see one side of the story” argument is super weak and people need to take a look at the entire story as whole. Both orcs and draenei lived together in peace. Azeroth orcs were influenced and began killing the draenei. AU draenei have been influenced and began a “convert of die” heretic movement. I don’t think it’s coincidence that this happens so shortly after we get the Xe’ra vs. Illidan cinematic either…
I think the only point of this scenario was to give an example of the light going too far again. I don’t think it was a plot to set up a future raid boss. More to hint at future conflicts that we may face when the void and light become more prominent.
This lightforged can only use crusade every 90 seconds tho.
/confused
Just a topic from someone that thinks knows wow lore but don’t.
That Draeneis are Lightbound, not Ligthforged. They are from WoD, a diferent dimension/timeline. They have no connections with the Lightforged Draeneis from Azeroth Dimension/timeline.
I hope we learn that “cosmological” balance is important before it comes to that.
Light and Void.
Life and Death.
They are all part of the grand order of things. You could get a couple of expansions out of that concept pretty easily. Using the standard three act set up (anything else would require too much planning/nuance).
Act 1 - Introduce concept that Void and Death might not necessarily be bad things, while Light and Life might not be 100% good either.
Legion and Battle for Azeroth
Act 2 - Large scale fighting between cosmological entities (Void Lords v Naru, Death Gods vs Nature Gods)
Twist#1 - Naru or Nature God is the bad guy, or at least A bad guy. Elune maybe.
Twist#2 - We recruit Sargeras to help us with whatever the new badness is. Probably a Void Dragon or something.
Two future expansions
Act 3 - Some pandas teach us about Harmony.
Azeroth is born and leaves the planet (intact) so we stop coming under attack. There is probably some massive moment where she fends off the “Void Dragon” and saves Sargeras from his fel taint. We shove the rest of the cosmological entities out of Azeroth as well and get back to killing each other.
One, POSSIBLY two more expansions to wrap up Act 3.
By then its the year 2030 or so, and the point is completely moot as WoW probably only has 350k - 1M players at that point.
If the game’s sub base falls before that grand scheme their Plan B is to pull an Age of Sigmar on us and start from the ground up with a new MMORPG, probably one that involves player-built content like housing / cities / quests, and is less “Theme Park” and more “Sandbox.”
But there is so much death, we need more life!
Agreed, though I would argue that the Loa / Celestials / Other Wild Gods already count.
But every time someone dies, that is less life and more death. Can the wild gods keep up?
The Loa of the Virmin will step in and make sure things stay on the Life side’s favor XD
Are you actually suggesting we go back to WoD?
O.o
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