When did KSM become so devalued?

just out of curiousity, what are players paying for a timed +20. asking for a friend NOT for me. :expressionless:

Because it’s not a definitively measurable thing. It’s going to rely on our own experiences and perceptions.

Oh you stood out, just for the wrong reasons my guy.

:confounded: :confounded:
trust i know that now lol

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Just run your own keys man, then you can pick who you want lol. Hopefully you’ll find a crew to run things with consistently, you won’t have this experience. At least you’re not playing a class that isn’t “meta.” lol, you’d really feel the brunt of rejection then.

That
explains everything. It would probably be higher than that if I had it in all my dungeon runs

I just realized I was in your guild months ago
 lol.

You will stand out if you can follow close behind me in interrupts
or if you know how to heroic leap over skips
or if you know when to use commanding shout, or aoe fear
or if you break fears
or if you know to give the tank a sec on LOS/ranged pulls before you aoe
or if you don’t kyrian spear in bad/sanguine( :rofl: )
AND if you’re not a douche
Those warrs stand out to me and get an invite to my xfaction m+ community regardless of io

Everyone has dipped their feet in MM lol, not surprised

I dipped
 thats for sure haha. A whole lotta drama when I left
 ooof. Thats wild though, you seem alright in any case :smiley:

Yeah, you’ve got quite a few dungeons with lower keys on secondary affix (the one that doesn’t have your best)

That’s the beauty of never running anything with guildies lol.

Tbh I feel like I met you outside SW bank a few times, but I might be mistaken. lol.

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So thankful I don’t give a crap about keys anymore.

Thank you classic wow :sparkling_heart:

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I’ma leave this here.

I don’t play classic era.

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Brb buying KSH so I can link.

:confounded: :confounded: :flushed:
ooooof

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Not sure. I usually just sell solo carries in 15s for 50k or so. Last patch w/ boosting communities it was easy to sell a carry because I could apply, do the run, then get paid in the mail for like 60-80k on a timed 20.

I do miss Huokan.

KSM can be bought like AotC.

But more than that, +15s are “hard”, but not so hard that a well put-together group can’t make up for someone’s poor performance. A bad player can get KSM by just continuing to spam M+ until eventually they get strong enough groups, and very few pugs are going to dig into their history to see that 80% of their runs are failed.

So KSM means less as time goes on.