I don’t play any of those games so I have no desire to meld their features into WoW. Might it appeal to someone else? Sure. I have zero interest in building this game even more around mini-games than it already is.
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I thought you missed airswimming with your mounts? Yeah I think it’d make more sense overall to not enable dragonriding for anything without wings such as your gyrocopters or my favourite airswimmer the jade panther but because no doubt the forums will be filled with screams from a suddenly massive population of gyrocopter lovers, it’d be worth taking the immersion hit to remove that excuse.
Yes, it’s clear that your earlier statement about wanting to use the mounts you collected was actually about wanting to airswim. I get it. You like it. Botters and multiboxers called people Karens for saying that botting and multiboxing were bad for the game. Similarly, I sympathise that it’ll mean that you can’t airswim as you would like to do but just like botting and boxing were bad for the game and are not tolerated or were removed I think that player abilities in an MMO affect a lot more than just themselves and that airswimming should be given a long-delayed funeral for the betterment of the game.
I’m associating my statements with facts, which you want to frame as “history” and therefore less factual because you don’t want to accept where they lead.
You were talking about engagement and participation for the game as a whole. Its your choice to not participate out of resentment but with a proper flight model and an audience of millions, it makes a lot of sense for the company that came up with Hearthstone and HotS (RIP) to not just sit on their laurels but to build something really compelling on top of dragonriding, hopefully increasing engagement and participation and reducing the number of people who would quit because of a lack of airswimming.
If they won’t give us regular flight back, how about giving us a flight whistle. It would save so much time and and help my eyes and head.
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It’s just the forums and wanting to troll people and make them suffer. Also the fact that regular flying will make it easier for people to properly farm resources or treasure hunt which makes people furious at the thought of something being easy.
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Yes, I do prefer how regular flight worked. I want the mounts I want to use to function in DF content as they still do in all of the old content and as the ghost/resurrection mounts do in DF.
And liars make up lies when they’re lying about other people saying things.
The botters are still here. There’s definitely been a noticeable uptick in gold-seller emails in my mailbox in the last two weeks, so they don’t seem to be all that cowed by Blizzard at the moment. They’ve gone back underground in the Dragon Isles, like they did in Cataclysm.
Multiboxers are still here, too. They just can’t use software to automate their alts, which makes things harder but not impossible.
That game didn’t get better, Karen. You surrendered 90% of it to them while you mash two buttons to fly around the remaining 10%.
Blizzard is free to make what it pleases. I am not expecting any great innovation from Blizzard at this point, nor am I expecting dragonriding to persist past this expansion. (I will believe dragonriding is in it for the long haul when Blizzard sells a dragonriding-compatible store mount.)
I would not be interested in playing WoW’s version of another game I don’t play and would ignore it, nor would I be happy if they took that new thing and did what they are doing with dragonriding, and making it compulsory because they don’t think we’d use it if given the choice.
I can hear the pitch now: “Yes, WoW has never had quidditch before, but that was because the technology just wasn’t there to provide the WoWditch experience we always wanted to deliver!”
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also 1 more great point.
if Blizz gets rid of regular flying, they would be killing their in game shop. most of their money in the shop comes from mounts. do you think we would buy mounts if regular flying is removed?
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Like in every expac since Cataclysm you’ll get it in 10.1.
They may make regular mounts fly like dragons.
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I’m pretty sure WoW’s “gyrocopters” are really just steampunk-style helicopters rather than actual autogyros. The rotor has a big engine at it’s base, with forward propulsion coming from what look like two turboprop engines at the front (and possibly a turbine engine in the nose as well because that piece spins too). Since the rear engine is nowhere near the others it logically must be powering the rotor, which would mean it’s not an autogyro.
To this aeronautical engineer’s eyes, it looks a lot more like an autogyro than a helicopter. No counter-torque mechanism like a tail rotor, for one thing. Particularly, go check out the Bensen X-25A (based on their B-8):
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Or helicopter and drones.
I don’t really see much similarity there tbh other than the general shape, which all similar vehicles share. The gnomish gyrocopters are really a combination of several things: airplane engines, powered helicopter rotor (which looks like it might be coal powered?), and a renaissance inspired tail. It’s not meant to be a functional design, rather it’s a fantasy design that uses enough real world parts for players to understand what it is while still fitting with WoW’s setting.
Apropos of nothing, the X-25 was completely bananas. Someone actually had an idea to put a lawnmower engine and whirly blades on an ejection seat, and the idea got far enough for them to build and fly a prototype.
I swear, they had to have been serving liquor at design meetings back in the day.
It’s not only people who dislike dragon riding who would quit. You can add all the fancy minigames you want, but if someone has a disability or a problem with motion sickness they will quit if dragon riding is the only option going forward. People who otherwise would continue to play.
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If Flying is truly inferior, why is it even gated in this expansion at all.
The fact that Flying is locked in favor of Dragon Riding shows that Blizzard believes that Flying is superior and is, as usual, forcing people to play with the new “bike” before giving the “car” back.
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Blizz hasn’t given us normal flying right away in an expac for many many years now. Dragonriding is the new gimmick, they want people to play with that before they’ll let everyone stay in the air all the time. Idk, it’s how Blizz is. I don’t know why everyone is so surprised by it tbh
I would like the option of both. There are times i’d prefer using dragon riding to get to where im going faster and there are times where I just want to align my camera to my destination, smack auto-run, and alt-tab or walk away for a bit.
Also, the vigor regeneration buff for gathering is garbage.
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There’s no association between your opinion and any facts. You’re listing events that DID happen, without any connection to the reasons WHY they happened.
Do you know why flying was disabled in those zones? They weren’t created to support it; a lot of assets were left out and would have to be added, which takes effort and cost.
I believe the attempt to get rid of flying in WoD was an economic decision; they could save a lot of money and effort if they didn’t have to build any more zones to acommodate flying. Unfortunately for Blizzard enough players disagreed with them that, economically, they had to back off that plan.
I simply don’t agree with your opinion, wherever you think it may lead.
There’s no good reason both forms of flying can’t co-exist.
We shall see what happens.
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This seems like a good theory. I suspect they were also burned out from Cata and Mop but especially Cata. They had to remake the entire world and Pandaria was a pretty big continent, too.
That’s not normal, those things are alien technology