When a healer thinks they're dps

[Corruptionn-stormrage]

did any of these people actually watch the video lol? alot of people taking it very seriously lol.

[Tsantzu-stormrage]

as a result of this video i now shout HOLY DAGGER! on every pull when playing my priest.

[Drysi-moonrunner]

It’s been a long while since I played a disc priest, but the DPS does heal you. It’s only when someone drops to half health that I’ll pop to heals. Tank always gets a shield, nobody else.

[Sunzsu-alexstrasza]

I was in a timewalking group a while back with a disc priest healing and had a rogue throwing an unholy fit the whole time because the healer was doing DPS

[Emnyte-stormrage]

@Abotou-dunemaul

The ramification of zero healer downtime is that healers are provided with game play that is the primary focus of the class.

The ramification of zero healer downtime is that noone except the elite of the elite would be able to play healers, or the game. Any avoidable damage would be instantly lethal. If avoidable damage isn’t instantly lethal, then that would mean the healer would have downtime to DPS. If bads like you or me are able to keep people alive, then players better than us would have time to DPS between heals. If I am able to heal groups at 240 ilvl, then being at 250 ilvl would mean I have time to DPS. Unless, of course, damage done to the group scales with healer gear…in which case, why would healers ever see a piece of loot again for the rest of their existences?

[Adilith-frostmourne]

just imagining when you start a dungeon and you get consistent pulsing dmg from start to finish. Just thinking about it sounds terrible. Makes me wonder if people are even aware of what they’re asking for

[Robokappa-sargeras (Robokappa)]

how I imagine M+ pugs… based on the forums.

Combat [Darkest Dungeon Animation]

[Emnyte-stormrage]

I mean, they very clearly, extremely, don’t. If it’s 100% healing uptime in a +2, then wtf happens in a +20? I truly don’t understand the thought process that leads to posts like that.

[Abendroth-zuljin (Abendroth)]

And then you’re like : Ooooh yeah, GCD is a thing. Oh tank, sorry, I lagged.

[Adilith-frostmourne]

@Emnyte-stormrage

I mean, they very clearly, extremely, don’t. If it’s 100% healing uptime in a +2, then wtf happens in a +20? I truly don’t understand the thought process that leads to posts like that.

people already have problem healing grevious. Imagine grevious with that

[Abotou-dunemaul (Abotou)]

@Adilith-frostmourne

just imagining when you start a dungeon and you get consistent pulsing dmg from start to finish. Just thinking about it sounds terrible. Makes me wonder if people are even aware of what they’re asking for

Are you people really this unimaginative and incapable of thinking outside of the boring dingy box of only the things you have done before?

Of course you are.

[Sôsari-dalaran]

@Abotou-dunemaul

The healing role should never have downtime

And how would that leave room for an infinitely scaling M+ system? If healers had to heal 100% of the time in a +2, what happens in a +15? M+ scales exponentially and gear is linear.

If no one needs heals, healers should be dpsing. This discussion happened already months ago. We are talking about free GCDs. We not not telling anyone to prioritize dpsing as a healer. Only with free GCDs.

[Abotou-dunemaul (Abotou)]

@Sôsari-dalaran

And how would that leave room for an infinitely scaling M+ system?

How does the game handle DPS needing to do damage 100% of the time?

Or tanking 100% of the time?

@Sôsari-dalaran

If no one needs heals, healers should be dpsing

Why would no one need heals if the party is consistently taking damage of one form or another?

[Xinloi-medivh]

Who am I to tell another player how to play their class/spec and a game they’re paying their hard earned money for?

If a healer wants to tank or dps then have at it bro. To hell with play guides and the internet. DOWHATYOULIKE

[Sanaera-wyrmrest-accord]

@Abotou-dunemaul

How does the game handle DPS needing to do damage 100% of the time?

You don’t. DPS have free GCDs for utility, too. Not every encounter in the game is a DPS check requiring 100% DPS. Most aren’t, in fact.

@Abotou-dunemaul

Or tanking 100% of the time?

Tanks also use utility spells and some, like Prot Paladin, actively heal too. Tanks spend more globals, I’d argue, damaging instead of mitigating.

@Abotou-dunemaul

Why would no one need heals if the party is consistently taking damage of one form or another?

Depends. Lots of times the party may have taken damage, but they’re not actually in danger. Why waste a global healing someone from 80% - 100% when they’re in no danger and you can instead spend it dealing damage and helping the encounter end sooner?

Part of healing well requires knowing when to conserve your higher-power heals and also knowing when not to waste your mana on filler when the party’s not actually in danger.

If you truly have no free globals then you’re genuinely wasting tons of mana and are bad.

Anyway, if this actually made healing more fun, you’d think Grievous would be everyone’s favorite affix.

[Abotou-dunemaul (Abotou)]

@Sanaera-wyrmrest-accord

You don’t. DPS have free GCDs for utility, too. Not every encounter in the game is a DPS check requiring 100% DPS. Most aren’t, in fact.

What are they doing with their GCD if not dealing damage to the boss?

@Sanaera-wyrmrest-accord

Tanks spend more globals, I’d argue, damaging instead of mitigating.

So tanks are maintaining threat… the focus of their role.

@Sanaera-wyrmrest-accord

Why waste a global healing someone from 80% - 100%

To prevent them from dying when that next hit takes them from 80% to 0. A dead DPS can’t do damage.

[Sanaera-wyrmrest-accord]

@Abotou-dunemaul

What are they doing with their GCD if not dealing damage to the boss?

Utility, offheals, popping a defensive, moving, avoiding mechanics.

@Abotou-dunemaul

To prevent them from dying when that next hit takes them from 80% to 0.

There are plenty of encounters where that won’t happen, though.

[Abotou-dunemaul (Abotou)]

@Sanaera-wyrmrest-accord

offheals

Perhaps if the healer wasn’t busy dealing damage they wouldn’t need to offheal.

@Sanaera-wyrmrest-accord

Utility,… popping a defensive, moving, avoiding mechanics.

Oh, so all the same things the healer is doing when they aren’t healing.

[Sôsari-dalaran]

@Abotou-dunemaul

How does the game handle DPS needing to do damage 100% of the time?

DPS use all of their globals. They DPS priority, but they also use utilities to help the tank.

Tanks use all of their globals. They tank priority, but they use utilities to help the group. Most of our rotation is straight DPS for numbers, not threat.

Under your logic I should get aggro and then just stand there.

Healers don’t need to heal with every GCD. They should use every GCD like everyone else. Otherwise they are just standing there trying to look pretty.

[Abotou-dunemaul (Abotou)]

@Sôsari-dalaran

DPS use all of their globals. They DPS priority, but they also use utilities to help the tank.

So just like the healers do…

@Sôsari-dalaran

Tanks use all of their globals. They tank priority, but they use utilities to help the group. Most of our rotation is straight DPS gor numbers, not threat.

Tanks literally generate threat by doing damage. It’s like your pointing out that a disc priest does damage while healing.

@Sôsari-dalaran

Under your logic I should get aggro and then just stand there.

No, you literally deal damage to manage your threat level. If you just sat there you would lose aggro. You wouldn’t be tanking.

@Sôsari-dalaran

Healers don’t need to heal with every GCD. They should use every GCD like everyone else. Otherwise they are just standing there trying to look pretty.

Poor game design. Healers should never be required to deal damage for the group to be successful.