I was going to do the quest in Coldridge to kill Grik’nir the Cold. Saw a gnome get jumped by some random troll as Grik’nir spawned and I invited the gnome to the group so while I kill Grik’nir they could get credit for the kill as well.
Gnome declines the group invite so I pull the quest mob while hes finishing fighting his troll friend. When Grik’nir drops I start getting whispers calling me all sorts of names and calling me the scum of the earth.
I tried to invite the guy so he could also get credit but he declined. Now I’m the scum of the earth and a kill stealing *****? What the?
Some people don’t need “help”, nor do they want it, they like the challenge of fighting thru it; which is why it was always customary to whisper someone before just spamming someone w/a group invite in front of thier face especially while they’re fighting? This etiquette goes back so far it’s standard? Also, if you started fighting tho he was already there, instead of waiting, that’s straightforward. (You straightup just interfered in his fight). Instead of blaming dude publicly, look inward. He prolly didn’t bother saying anything b/c usually explaining this is met with the person who thinks they’re “in the right” doubling down. Let’s see what happens. Have a feeling I’ll get trolled into the Nether for this. xD
But seriously, how are you surprised by these people. People are scum bags add in the level of anonymity associated with online gaming. And you get the following results; people suck.
Lol I had something similar happen to me. Was in stonetalon going after a named quest NPC. I saw another player killing the normal mobs surronding the named one but it didn’t look like this player was going for the named one (I mean, she was literally clearing AWAY FROM the mob and going back out of the camp). There was a quest to kill the normal ones so I just assumed this player wasn’t at the same stage in the quest chain that I was.
Anyways, I pulled the named NPC and this player starts saying stuff like, “really? I was clearing to that…” I honestly didn’t think she was but I immediately targeted her and invited. The named NPC mob still had like 70% health so she definitely would’ve been able to get the tag along with me. However, she declined the invite. After I finished the mob, I asked, “why didn’t you accept? We both would’ve gotten credit for the kill.”
Then this player responds with the most butt hurt and petty remark I’ve seen in all my years of online video games: “I don’t want to associate myself with inconsiderate players like you”
LOL I laughed so hard at that. I just imagined someone’s mother playing the game who thought that she’d be teaching me a lesson on how to be nice to others and how to share or something lol. Absolute petty moron lol.
This isn’t about the player not being capable of killing a lvl 5 mob. Its about allowing two players to complete a quest at the same time instead of having one wait for the respawn. It’s inconsiderate to keep the mob tag for yourself when you know that the player right next to you is also trying to get that. It’s not like someone has to be the loser in the situation. Accepting that invite allows for an easy win-win situation instead of a win-lose situation.
Normally, yes. PM a player before inviting to group or inviting to guild. However, if it’s blatantly obvious that two players are working towards a named NPC, is it really necessary to say “Hey, wanna group up for this mob?” Especially considering that
It’s not easy for that player to type a response while trying to keep his hands on the WASD keys and the mouse. It’s far more convenient to just hit accept in that window. BTW, one single invite =/= spamming invites.
If that other player was trying to do a hardcore challenge or something along those lines then he would’ve explained that with the same effort he used in typing curses to OP. He was clearly being selfish, petty, prideful, dumb, or a combination of the such.
BTW, @Morganosh.
You’re not getting trolled. You’re just getting an explanation of something which you didn’t consider before calling out OP
People are stupid. Iv’e had this happen quite a few times where I would see someone and invite them and they would decline, so naturally, I would run ahead and tag the quest mob and solo it while they continued to kill the trash surrounding it. Shoulda accepted the invite bro, have fun waiting on that respawn. I don’t have time to sit around all day waiting on spawns, you’re lucky I invited you. Decline the invite and you deserve to miss the kill.
No, LOL I’ve heard all the “reasons” before, since Vanilla. Long, long winded “reasons” for why people defend behaviour that was at one point, frowned upon. Not original either, always the same “reasons”. Now, those same people (typically Vets w/what was standard etiquette) are being told “why” we should tolerate what our parents taught us in preschool is rude behaviour. You do you. I don’t actually have these problems, because I don’t act this way in game & then expect others should conform to my view of “acceptable”, so the “primer” was kinda a waste. There’s a reason addons are made that block such behaviour, but you’re right, some people don’t want to learn. They say as much. Speaks volumes about them if you ask me. You do you & have a great time out there!
So kid who declined was innocent of any issues and OP should have waited for him to finish what the other guy was doing and not taken the kill?? Sorry, but no. I am with OP here. If theres a quest mob i need and someone is near it already, ill toss an inv. If its declined im killing it. If its taken we both benefit.
Well he never named anyone so i dont think hes blaming dude publicly. Maybe look inward yourself. How does someone else who wants to avoid the MMO aspect of a MMO game somehow righteous and the victim here? Maybe he should play Zelda, or Final Fantasy. You know… games made for single player? If anything that guys gonna really hate the game once he hits 60 and realizes he needs others to premade for high rank grinds, or needs 39 others to raid with…
You can put whatever words you want into my mouth that you want, I know what I said and mean. Frankly, that’s about the attitude that’s expected, which is why others call people that behave like this “inconsiderate”. Kinda proving my point here. You have a good day now.
Bruh and this is just with two people, what if it’s a busy server/zone and 5 people show up at once for the same mob kill quest? What are they supposed to sit back and form a line? In an open world MMO where many people are playing in the same world, you can’t expect people to let you solo a quest mob when you can just group up and everyone gets the kill and goes onto the next quest. That crap would take all day and no one would level, some of these mobs take ten to 15 minutes to respawn.
This is the weirdest flex iv’e seen in a while, like the reasoning behind your opinion Morganosh, makes little sense. It’s not viable, logical, and morally it sounds dumb as well.
Okay, well then go with what the scenario that was presented, as opposed to concocting alternate scenarios. Again, putting words into my mouth. Not gonna “argue” with strawmans, but if you were actually trying to have a legitimate conversation, I’d engage. That’s not happening, so the only person “flexing” here is you. Not exactly sure why ya’ll need to get this bent about something like this. We’re seriously discussing game etiquette…and people have a problem with it. I think that’s pretty self explanitory.
Etiquette in WoW is to invite players if you see them nearby on the same quest, when a particular Mob is present that you both need to kill. it’s not like in retail where anyone can tag and get the kill even when not in a group, you have to group to get credit in classic. No one wants to wait 10 more minutes for the kill, on top of other mobs that will respawn as well.
Also, have fun with the pyrewood quests here in a few levels. You’re gonna have a blast soloing those bad boys.
You’re trying to turn this into some kind of moral issue while avoiding the context in which I’ve made my remarks.
“You do you” is the ultimate way of saying, “I don’t have a logical point, but I’m going to claim to take the high road and I want you to know it.”
LMK when you can make a single counterpoint to literally ANYTHING that I mentioned. Not everything is black and white, and neither is the “asking before inviting rule” especially when in combat. OP was being considerate and trying to let both get credit for the mob. You’re defending the other player who refused to share and then got pissy with the one who tried to share. And how is it that you’re defending him? By trying to make vague statements of how people are trying to change what is considered good and bad that our parents taught us?
wtf? lol, YOU DO YOU
He reminds me of this kid I encountered when I was in basic training for the army, they ran out of syrup so I sat there across from him with dry waffles and he had grabbed 4 syrup packs. I asked him for one and he straight up said: ‘‘Naw man I need these’’. Dude was dead serious, wasn’t even trying to be mean to me. He straight up believed that was a morally right thing to do lmao.
LOL dude I soloed from Vanilla thru BC, WotLK & Cata by choice and never had a problem. I’m not new to this game, kiddo. I enjoy the challenge. Not exactly sure what your strange obsession at trying to find an insult is. (Or why? Bored? Lonely?) It’s not working but it’s slightly entertaining I’ll admit. Quit posturing because you’re just looking silly making all sorts of assumptions. I get it. You decide what’s game etiquette, it’s irrelevant to you what was an established “code” amongst the playerbase. Believe me, I “get” the kind of person you are. It’s uhm, not bothering me that much at the end of the day, because such players have been around for a long time. I’m not struggling to deal with this tho. lmao Like I said “doubling down” instead of being open to hearing how to get along. Nothing new here.
And seriously? This is about morals to you? LMAO I gotta go it’s been real. My sides.
So what should I have done? Wait for him to kill the mob, kill the quest mob and then wait for the respawn? Him and I were right there and I was getting ready to tag. That could have been a good 20-30 minute wait otherwise.
