Whats with the massive gear gap in BGs?

[Pípíkaula-proudmoore]

EU’s alliance pop is bigger than horde’s?

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

TY, I have suggested this before. Make a “merc” type option if you want to only be in a solo BG.

[Yarrow]

I think the difference isn’t between solo queuers and premades, but between solo queuers plus casual premades versus organized premades of high rated team alts on voice.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

For pvp, yep

[Pípíkaula-proudmoore]

I think the difference isn’t between solo queuers and premades, but between solo queuers plus casual premades versus organized premades of high rated team alts on voice.

I can agree with this.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

Ahh now we are changing our standards? I mean, I run a mean casual premade. Pwny, Corn, Tribbie, Zar… I will take them all over an Abomb type player who only wants to fart around and check stuff out…

[Pípíkaula-proudmoore]

That is interesting. I didn’t know that…

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

arenamate shows you ratings for both factions/regions

[Pípíkaula-proudmoore]

When I solo queue, I can rarely tell if I’m actually playing with a premade. Yours is the only one I’ve actually been able to see that does make a big difference. Most other times it just feels like it’s unorganized vs. unorganized, or the alliance team is being run over.

[Pípíkaula-proudmoore]

TBF, I believe class composition makes a huge difference. One good rogue on a 10-man map can make a big impact. So can a couple good healers. Every class can contribute but IMO some are designed such that they can contribute more toward objectives.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

Unorganized vs unorganized. Ty.

[Pípíkaula-proudmoore]

Yep. Unorganized, but it too often feels like the alliance team is lacking, even in those.

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

Wish I could post ss as I have many of us creaming horde premades as well. Like horde guild premades.

[Pípíkaula-proudmoore]

No offesne but are they PvP guilds, or PvE guilds? You guys are basically like a guild team yourselves. lol

[Jugajr-emerald-dream (Jugajr)]

Ahh the infamous but… lmfao I’m done here for the night. See ya. Also a good reason they won’t do a solo queue only. But but my team was all pve’ers QQ

[Pípíkaula-proudmoore]

? Ok, g’night!

[edit] Umm, not sure what you’re talking about now. But, what’s wrong with saying it wouldn’t be as hard to defeat a PvE guild vs. a PvP guild team?

[Realugly-drenden (Realugly)]

At the height of this game WotLK, group play was how you geared. In fact, as “welfare epics” began to be introduced the outcry was loud and the game started to decline and -never- recovered. (Talking subs as popularity)

Actually the game started dying because “insert personal dislike for something in the game as reason for sub loss”.

[Darelin-darkspear (Darelin)]

Good amount of top pvers are also top pvpers.

[Lothlòria-mannoroth (Lothlòria)]

Wants equivalent gear from random bgs as rated Pvpers, who put their rating on the line each time they Q, whether arena or bg.

I want individual rewards for my time spent PVPing. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.

-Outright refuses to do any PVE whatsoever, including the 20 min warfront that gives you a 100% 370 piece with a chance to upgrade, which includes azerite pieces.

Actually I do the Warfront stuff, but my disdain for PVE stands. It’s the most absolute BORING aspect of the game.

-Complains essentially that it takes too long to get conquest per week, even though this week for example, you can get 150 per day just doing random bgs +brawl.

When you have multiple characters (I have 12, but only 3 have I leveled from 110 to 120) just due to the TIME required, it still takes a full week to cap out ONE piece of gear.

I think that “holds water” for someone that wants things but doesn’t want to do what it takes to get them, and would rather moan about the disparity and say “my life is too busy to spend time on the game”.

No, you’re making it personal which is just immature. You’re missing a lot of the points I made and focusing on only one. I expect that though from some of the people here who are snipers.

BTW, I was correct about WOW’s dwindling numbers:

Just look up Yahoo, there’s a nice post I cannot show about Blizzard’s dwindling user base, including WOW. WOW is at all time lows, and it has a lot to do with unbalanced PVP and RNG gear.

At the very least we should be able to BUY from a PVP vendor the gear we need. When they stopped that a lot of users left. It’s also unfair to force people to PVE to have top gear in PVP. Another reason users are leaving. You think I am the only person in the game who is annoyed at the huge advantage PVErs are getting in PVP.

Not asking for freebies, I am asking that Blizz provides an option for people who cannot put Rated BG teams together and don’t have regular players for 2s/3s. Since we do actually work hard at random BGs, there needs to be individual achievements for that which excludes the AFK idiots who want to be carried.

[Lothlòria-mannoroth (Lothlòria)]

Yeah ppl who invest more time and effort into things should get more rewards, something given for free has no value.

So you’d agree that socialism sucks, right That’s what the Left runs on.

Not asking for anything free. I am more than willing to put in the work, it’s just not always easy to find groups for rated BGs and I own my own guild which has only my members, lol. I don’t have regular WOW friends that PVP.

I did have a pretty good player but he disappeared. A lot of the people I used to Arena with have left.