Whats with the massive gear gap in BGs?

I’m not saying gear is not a factor. I’m saying yes, AND…

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Benefits from group content early on, like Arenas and Mythic+, are still benefits from group content. Even if you eventually outgrew the gear from these sources, it helped you cap Conquest more quickly in later weeks.

Look at my profile. My ilvl is even higher but in a few slots the secondaries are better so i chose them (boots and bracer). I have 370 in those slots but choose not to use them. When i put them on, i’m 368.

Solo content as rbgs, warfronts, world bosses, and raid finder, all things you can click and join just like rbgs or skirms.

Just to be clear, I’m talking about fresh 120s, not about people who have great gear and play games with using it selectively. The latter do exist but they need good gear to start their gear selection with.

I would say all this proves is that a well geared team can carry one fresh 120. If Alliance teams had only one fresh 120 at a time, compensated for by 360-370s that wouldn’t be a problem. Unfortunately, that’s not what we’re looking at.

The MW in question wasn’t ‘carried’, our dps including me, peeled for our healers and stopped tunnel visioning to save and protect him. This is called good play.

I rarely see my opponents peel for their healers when we decided to train them. At that point, it doesn’t matter if they are 270 or 370 they are dead.

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So basically what you are saying to the solo players is, “you can do fine solo - as long as you group up”. Sounds kind of oxymoronic.

Lol no with scaling 270 is as competitive as 360. There are a tonight of videos of people showing how they hit harder and take less damage in greens. Scaling is in full effect trust me. Also top end gladiators in full 380+ gear rock 340 items as they have the right trait. Traits>>>>>ilvl.

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Except it really isn’t yet? Warfronts/lfr reward 340 (shouldn’t be any higher). Conquest up until now has been 355. World bosses are 355.

Unless the RNG God’s completely ignore odds and bless you you’re not getting well over 360 doing solo content. You get one 370 per month from a warfront and another from the world boss.

Of course there is RNG war/Titan but that for some reason tends to be for identical items you already have. I got 390 boots 3 times. My buddy got 395 boots and has proceeded to get 3 war/Titans for boots since. For both of us that is our only 390 item, it’s hilarious.

Honestly solo 360ish ilvl. Which is fine. Also ilvl doesn’t matter much lol

How do you propose Queing for a random by yourself and Queing for a World Boss really any different as far as solo/group is concerned? In both cases you are in a “group”. Same goes for raid finder, or warfront etc. You Que, you are ported to the location, you do the thing, then port back.

I count all of those as “solo”.

But gear doesn’t matter, everything scales, you can buy full set of greens w/ sockets and still do just as good as a full 370.

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I’ve tested this more than once, most recently early this week. I think my ilvl was 230 or so and did more than fine, leading in kbs and not dying often at all. Gear outside of traits and trinks are really just to get the best secondaries for your class/spec.

If you can’t see the difference between queueing for a random battleground by yourself and queueing for a random battleground with a group of PVP friends who are 100 ilvl higher than you are, I doubt further explanation is going to help.

I’ve Que’d solo- with low ilvls- with no issue. Not “some” issue, but zero. You are hung up on gear but i, and others, who have tested this are explaining to you that it doesn’t matter but still you insist.

This vid will help explain what is going on.

Why?
There are videos upon videos that show what we are saying.

I think people are arguing over semantics. You can get to 370 without doing mythic dungeons, raiding or rated pvp. That is just a fact.

You need good azerite powers to be fully competitive, so gear does matter.

However, I find people with low item level easy to kill but it is hard to say whether that is because they have poor azerite powers or are inexperienced with their class (as you might expect from someone with low item level at this point in the expansion).

I’ve Que’d solo- with low ilvls- with no issue. Not “some” issue, but zero. You are hung up on gear but i, and others, who have tested this are explaining to you that it doesn’t matter but still you insist.

This vid will help explain what is going on.

Why?
There are videos upon videos that show what we are saying.

What annoys me is players have to work this out for themselves… really why can’t blizzard tell us how it works… so everyone is on the same page.
Starting to hate blizzard and their transparancy on game mechanics… time for a new game I think.

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RBGs, not solo.
World Bosses, not solo.
Raid finder, not solo.
Random BGs, not solo.

What part of “You cannot solo to gear up” did you miss?

I with you.

On the arena forums there was a post called “let the chaos ensue” where people were pleading for the actual math behind scaling and the blue just dodged. Really frustrating why they just can’t tell us what is happening.

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Rbgs as in random, should have stipulated.

If those other modes are not solo enough for you then i’m just at a loss. Yea, technically there are other players but you don’t even need to interact with them at all. Hit a button and get teleported to the place, leave when you are done.

It can’t get any easier other than blizz just mailing you 370 epics for logging in. That sounds like what you are looking for.

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