What's with all the "entitlement" rolls in heroics?

Welcome to pugging. It sucks, but it is what it is. I recommend doing runs with guildies instead if that kind of behaviour bothers you too much.

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Some people do heroics to get gear for an offspec. Not sure how you rationalize “never take gear that will help you do a new job” but also “never do a role you have no gear for”.

Spare us. It’s heroics. It’s not that big a deal. Go do it tomorrow, you’ll probably see the same drops.

You know just attacking people, thinking you’re the greatest thing alive is a bad move for someone that clearly is losing this argument. How many people agree with you? 1? 2? Nobody cares in Wrath. And to sit there and call me a ninja? I rarely even roll on upgrades for my own spec and have never rolled offspec as I don’t even have an off spec. Take your insults, go back to your nonsensical world of master looting dungeon items and get over it. If you’re not losing loot, why are you on here? I have been in a total of 1 group where someone had a problem with an off spec rolling without asking, and that’s because they needed and then disenchanted an item 3 people rolled need on. OTher than that, it’s dungeon loot. I cleared 25 naxx with 3 pieces of level 70 gear still on, so news flash, that gear you’re so adamantly defending, it’s not that big of a deal. How is a tank supposed to get gear? Go in a dungeon in all dps gear so they’re allowed to roll on tank gear? You’re taking a 20 year old expansion way too seriously and none if it is even remotely difficult. You can sit here and act like this is some huge problem but it’s not. You’re the first person I’ve even seen complain on the forums which is nothing but complaining. Here’s a thought, play your game your way and leave it at that. Don’t come on here throwing idiotic insults at people just for the sake of arguing. Hence calling me a ninja when I never ever said I looted off spec. You’re an idiot and people like you have no place in this game.

Yes because no loot ever got stolen after ML was introduced :man_facepalming:

Blaming blizzard for personal bad decision making is LOL

Buddy. MS>OS is the prevailing loot etiquette. Has been for all of Classic, and persists now in Wrath.

The OP is about retail tourists coming in and disregarding loot etiquette and ninjaing loot for their OS. That’s happened to me, is why I’m here.

How long have you been playing Classic?

You need to format your word vomit if you want me to read any further.

Entitlement rolls lol The misuse of this word is reaching ridiculous levels.

dont like it? Increase your social iq and join a guild. Until then continue being a snowlake on the forum

No Blizzard fixed it by putting in personal loot.

Lol imagine having faith in the classic playerbase to do the right thing :rofl:

You will be sad when personal loot is gone. Kekw

dudes crying about heroic gear… LOL

LFR is gonna be fun to watch. Already has 25 people who don’t care about the raid itself even mostly.

so like they are gonna care about gentleman’s agreements on loot as a whole.

I was an exception there really. I went in full pvp fit, so its gear useless to me. So if I got hits…roll for it. OR I’d estalk and just go dude your gear hurts my eyes to look at it. take this, put in on now. so I opened up a few trade windows not even asked lol.

Lol no i have people to play with, dont need to fight for loot with the rest of the scums so it doesnt matter what loot is used.

Its called empathy, just because i dont have issues with the loot doesnt mean it doesnt happen.

So edgy that its cringe :man_facepalming: i thought the avg age group here was like 35+ you either a manchild or zoomer but grow up pls.

Never in my parties, but I have heard peoppe ninja loot a lot. That’s why I only bring Guildies or non-plate wearers (in my instance) when I’m searching for a specific piece. Of course I’m guilty of being “elitist” or reserving gear by doing that, but whatever, my party, my rules.

Question is, what is ninja looting, and wat is an inappropriate roll.

Just yesterday i got invited into a nexus hc group with my 2nd pally- I enlisted as DPS and Tank.
I got asked to tank, so i did that.
Endboss dropped the melee dps trinket, i needrolled it and won against the ret paladin in the group.

Was it wrong to roll on it ?
I dont think so.
First and foremost, i went nexus hc cause i needed the trinket.
I was listed as dps and tank, and tanked because i was asked to do.

I dont even think that this is elitist. If you really want a specific item without anyone else, either make a locked run, or build a group where no one else can use it, in any spec.
Obviously, that only really works as either Heal or Tank, otherwise you always will have a player that might want “your” gear - as a caster dps the heal might want the gear, as a meele dps the tank might want it.

This is why first and foremost I always try to get a guild run going, otherwise I try to be as selective as I can. Ultimately if someone loots off-spec or just to be a jerk, that just comes with the territory and the easiest thing to do is move on. Not gonna cry over Heroic gear, especially with how mind numbingly easy the content currently is.

I think most people understand that the default loot setting in a pug group is MS/OS need over greed. I’ve very seldom experienced the OP’s problem. I haven’t had any issues with MS and OS rollers butting heads yet this expac. If someone wants to roll on items different from the role they play in the group, they need to negotiate that with the group before the dungeon starts.

I don’t think it’s ever a bad idea to simply say MS/OS need over greed, if you’re going to pug. It denies people the opportunity to be ignorant or feign ignorance about community expectations, or to do that kind of “rationalizing” about what loot they should be allowed to roll on.

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mostly nax healing gear ms holy paladan no real dps gear.

what should i do a
join a group as dps get kicked cause my dps is bloody horrible cause im mostly in holy gear tank dies a few times cause healers on YouTube most the time we wipe healer gets mad and blames the dps looks at chart my dps is bad i get kicked no gear.
or
join a group as heals make sure group fully clears cause i know i will be able to heal through roll on a dps piece for my os dps rages i get kicked for being a ninja

HOW DO I GEAR?!

In my experience, healer is the most in demand role right now. You can probably just message a group leader and offer to heal, but say you would like to roll on DPS gear. Or, you can start your own group and simply say the same thing to the group before you head to the dungeon.

So long as everyone knows what’s going on before the dungeon begins and they agree to go, there isn’t going to be a problem.

join a group as dps get kicked cause my dps is bloody horrible cause im mostly in holy gear

If you want to DPS, I would quickly do some quests/get some rep gear to build out a ret set–you know stuff that’s around level 78. Putting in the effort to execute your rotation will probably be more than enough to pull your weight in appropriate gear.

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so its ok if your in demand so a dps could never change spec cause they are a dime a dozen in your mind. would not be able to tank cause they wouldn’t dodge if not one shot.

i agree letting people know ahead of time is very helpfull have done this in the past but most people dont read chat and i still end up with people raging at me.

example my last group was for VH when i invited the dude i said VH has no stone you need to come to dal. 5 minutes later he asked for a summon. when i told him i couldnt he left.
another example
did what you said told leader i will heal but wanna roll dps gear lead was cool with it. join group hey guys gonna be rolling on dps gear. no reply get to last boss on dungeon with the axe i needed. so i need it the warrior in the group is mad few nasty pm’s for a bit mad now i did it all right still got raged at