What's with all the alliance hiding under the bridge?

I have none what, experience in av ? This is my retail alt I like to write in forums with. I can assure you I have many 60s in Classic and each of them played a lot in AV. I actually have one rank 13 and four ranks 11 (well some deranked now of course).

I have to disagree : in the present conversation, I was not comparing alliance cave distance to SPGY vs. horde cave to IBGY. At all events, yes it is an imbalance but it doesn’t prevent alliance to win, just make it a bit longer.

You’re saying the reason alliance loses IBGY before it hard cap it is because horde rez at their cave when it’s taken. I disagree. Alliance is losing ibgy because the 40 allies doesn’t stack at ibgy and because the 40 allies doesn’t prevent horde from leaking and go take shgy. In order to prevent this, alliance would have to work hard yes, that I agree.

Now time it. Time how long it takes for alliance rezzing at spgy to get back at shgy : 47 seconds or so. It looks longer than horde rezzing in cave - IBGY distance it’s almost the same. It’s (almost) an illusion to think otherwise. Horde rezzing in cave have to walk and it takes 40 seconds to get from cave to IBGY. 40 sec vs 47 sec. Not a big difference in time. Actually, might be less than 47 seconds for alliance. I need to try an alternate way.

Now let’s be careful with your example : shgy fight is hard for horde cause alliance rez next to it. Not because your cave is far. It takes like 5 seconds to rez at shgy and spin shgy flag. Just like horde would trying to prevent ibgy to be cap. So I don’t think your example applies at all.

The mistake is to send 20 to ibgy while trying to defend shgy. My point is not that alliance is bad overall. But less rankers are in av ally side so it makes a difference. And since rankers all left av at the same time back when they were prevented to premade it, it had a terrible impact on the whole meta alliance side.

And no, again it’a mirage, horde cave is not that close to ibgy cause hordes have to walk a certain distance before mounting. I don’t know what is rhgy, never heard of it. If you mean fwgy, it’s actually faster for horde to rez at fwgy and go ibgy than rezzing in cave. Again, it doesn’t seem accurate, but again, I timed it.

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