What's the point in time-gating LFR?

agreed however there is no guide or video that will give a player experience like first hand in game experience will. for a new player that actually wants to achieve harder content then lfr is the perfect place to start. and having it lag behind with a later start date is progress in reverse.

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People are allowed to have opinions you disagree with, champ. It’s blizzard that designs the game, not any other player.

there’s nothing arrogant about stating facts. lfr IS super easy. by design. you have to actively try to die in there.

Probably in hopes players will try the harder content and get hooked.

Look up the word Hubris.

Look up PCmagizine back in 2007 by a coder who really spilled the beans on wow. Yes, players have been telling wow what to do. Again reasearching is not hard. Posting something is easy. Both do not go hand in hand.

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Whether the gear is not there or you decide not to farm it is the same thing. I’ve done normals and heroics. You do not need LFR to beat them.

This isn’t true and hasn’t been true for a while. LFR is closer to normal in difficulty.

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Sorry, I need you to authenticate this with actual official data. What you’re giving isn’t official data, it’s hearsay.

Nobody was talking about normal nor heroic. Nobody was even talking about ‘just’ mythic. I simply stated that the reason they delay LFR was so that mythic raiders don’t use the lockout as an extra means to get tier bonuses for getting HOF placement in mythic. There’s no point in arguing, that’s not my opinion, that’s literally the reason it is the way it is.

They could just change HOF rules. :woman_shrugging:

Personally, I think for the first few weeks they should share a lockout regardless of difficulty, at least for the first few weeks instead of spacing things out. As in if you killed boss 1 in normal, you can’t loot it in any other difficulty. That way you can literally run whatever difficulty you want and there’s no good reason to stagger out releases. Top 100 guilds would probably still want mythic to be delayed so they get a shot at heroic gear because it’s going to be better than their current gear but it will eliminate the issues that arise when you give them access to LFR.

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If Mythic raiders still want Mythic to be delayed then that’s more than fine. But there are ways around handling the other difficulties so everyone else isn’t bored out of their minds.

What makes LFR difficult are the players themselves not mechanics. A quarter of them will intentionally die to the first pulse of damage from the boss, and quite a few will slackjaw through the fight. A minority of them will actually try to fight the boss and carry the rest.

That’s not going to teach you the actual boss mechanics though. It’ll just teach you to hate your fellow players.

Doing a good job of that. Players don’t do LFR to learn mechanics (well, some might), they want to afk for gear and hope the altruism of other players will carry them.

I mean, most people know about at least the dungeon journal, and generally they’re aware of google to learn fights.

If people want to learn the fights, there are ways to be proactive instead of banging your head against LFR

I agree. Probably why I haven’t set foot into LFR in over a decade.

I mean.

I want to do the fights because it’s the only way I can experience raiding in some capacity on a time frame that works for me and requires zero comittment

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Well, if more LFRaiders thought like you, the experience wouldn’t be so bad.

It’s really not that bad of an experience.

I have significantly worse time in normal pugs.

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I beg to differ, but then again, I don’t pug Normals. I have been in LFR runs where the call was to kick all the low DPS, and they end up kicking all the healers.